Kobe and losing in the Finals again vs the Celtics

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't think losing this year would hurt him either way TBH..I can't really think of anybody I would drop him behind if he played poorly in this year's Finals, especially since the guys around the spot where I have him had those types of moments as well..

[Killakobe81]

Kobe's finals performances in 2004 and 2008 did tarnish his resume. Absolutely. But when you consider the rest of his career, it doesn't hurt him too much. If the Lakers do lose in the finals this year, it could hurt him more, but it would depend how he plays and if they get beaten badly or not. If Kobe plays great, shoots the ball well, is unselfish getting teammates involved, and Boston just outplays them, it doesn't really change things.

And people might not remember, but guys like Magic, Kareem, and Wilt all lost four NBA finals. All three are still very often considered top 5 players ever.

Good catch it was 4 for Magic not 3 ...

I guess i blocked out the lost to the Badboys ... LOL

[ezau]

Celtics in 6.

[ChrisRichards]

How about you answer this question. When the Lakers spank the Celts and go on to win thier 16th and Kobe his 5th... how would you rank him?

Personally i could care less if he is top 3 or top 200 as long as he helps bring our team the le but since you are so obsessed... let's hear your take if they win it.

If Kobe wins a le this year with another Finals MVP, id put him in the Top 10. If he does'nt then he remains in the top 11-15 range. People say they dont care about this issue but as sports fans you knwo damn well that your favorite players rank means a lot to you.

Kobe's finals performances in 2004 and 2008 did tarnish his resume. Absolutely. But when you consider the rest of his career, it doesn't hurt him too much. If the Lakers do lose in the finals this year, it could hurt him more, but it would depend how he plays and if they get beaten badly or not. If Kobe plays great, shoots the ball well, is unselfish getting teammates involved, and Boston just outplays them, it doesn't really change things.

I love it when you post without bias.

And people might not remember, but guys like Magic, Kareem, and Wilt all lost four NBA finals. All three are still very often considered top 5 players ever.

All of those players were trendsetters though and they flourished in a time when the league does'nt really have a true "Superstar".

[Leetonidas]

Kobe is a top 5 player all time.

@ a guy with one le and one MVP shooting like 40% over his career being a top 5 player of all time.

Jordan
Kareem
Russel
Chamberlain
Magic
Bird
Olajuwon
Duncan
Shaq
Robertson
Dr. J

All these guys, and those were off the top of my head, are ahead of Kobe on the GOAT list. Only Kobe- -Gobblers think he is in the top 5 or better than Jordan. Plain and simple he is a one dimensional player who does nothing useful but score the ball and even then he shoots his team out of games too often. Kobe is just a taller Allen Iverson.

[Giuseppe]

Kobe is just a taller Allen Iverson.

...with 4 NBA World Championships.

[Leetonidas]

...with 1 NBA Championship.

Fixed.

[Giuseppe]

Fixed.