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  1. #26
    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    There's a thought: instead of making stupid movies and preening like a teenaged beauty queen on his free-agent tour, maybe LeBron can get his ass to a big man camp and work on his post game.

    Fat chance, though.
    Bron's just trying to be a "brand" and get billionaire status without doing it on the court. Not sure if thats possible.

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    lol banned DUNCANownsKOBE2's Avatar
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    The problem was Lebron as well. He doesn't have a reliable offensive game like in the post or shooting off the dribble. No Boston wing should be able to guard him down low. His teammates didn't help, but a more polished Lebron might have won this series.

    There's no question a lot of it falls on Lebron, and in that respect Ferry could only do so much. I hope if he leaves Cleveland, they boo the out of him whenever he plays there again.

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    There's no question a lot of it falls on Lebron, and in that respect Ferry could only do so much. I hope if he leaves Cleveland, they boo the out of him whenever he plays there again.
    That's a given. If I were Lebron and I decide to leave I would make sure I'm unable to travel with the team every time they play in Cleveland.

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    I cannot imagine the anger that will be unleashed by Cleveland fans on LBJ once he signs with another team and that team visits Cleveland.

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    I cannot imagine the anger that will be unleashed by Cleveland fans on LBJ once he signs with another team and that team visits Cleveland.
    He would deserve every bit of it. When you have a say in who comes and goes, help to build a flawed team, and then decide to bail, you are asking for it. Does anyone blame Ferry for running as fast as he could?

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    you fail at trollin' me TheMACHINE's Avatar
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    He would deserve every bit of it. When you have a say in who comes and goes, help to build a flawed team, and then decide to bail, you are asking for it. Does anyone blame Ferry for running as fast as he could?
    not only does he bail, but he goes on a media tour to make sure everyone knows about it.

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    not only does he bail, but he goes on a media tour to make sure everyone knows about it.
    I didn't even think about that part. If he leaves they might rob his ass the next time he returns.

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    I think BronBrons plan along has been New Jersey. I doubt it has changed.

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    Holy did not expect that.

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    LOL Dan Gilbert's look on his face in that 30 point blowout basically said, " this , time to clean house".

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    LOL Dan Gilbert's look on his face in that 30 point blowout basically said, " this , time to clean house".
    Hard to blame him. He put a -ton of money into this franchise, and that doesn't even include the millions in luxury tax he's paid out over the last several years. And that's the return he gets?

    I'd be out for blood too if I were him.

    If the Lakers took a beating like that on their home floor... well, you tell me what Dr. Buss's reaction would be?

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    Hard to blame him. He put a -ton of money into this franchise, and that doesn't even include the millions in luxury tax he's paid out over the last several years. And that's the return he gets?

    I'd be out for blood too if I were him.

    If the Lakers took a beating like that on their home floor... well, you tell me what Dr. Buss's reaction would be?
    These days Dr. Buss is always at the casino with 22 year old hookers so who knows.

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    hold mah dick! duhoh's Avatar
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    i thought the amare trade didn't go through because phoenix demanded that they don't give him a physical.

    might have not been to CLE, but i do remember a lot of articles of amare trades not going through because of that.

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    One thing that seems pretty clear is somewhere during the 2009 deadline when he had Wally's contract to dangle and 2010 deadline when he had Z's contract to dangle, there was a point in time when he could have gotten Amare for pennies on the dollar and rejected it for whatever reason. He has been way too complacent as GM of Cleveland and didn't look to improve as much as he could have. Maybe the playoffs are a different story, but being the GM of a 60 win team isn't an accomplishment at all when you have the best regular season player in the NBA.
    and if they got amare he would walk
    amare played well for suns only after allstar break trying to get a big contract

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    The problem was Lebron as well. He doesn't have a reliable offensive game like in the post or shooting off the dribble.
    Lebron has no mid range game either.

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    I think the Cavs' number 1 problem was a "we have to win now" mindset. Had they taken their time and built around LeBron the way Sam Presti is building around Durant then the Cavs could be a dynasty. And if "ifs and buts were cookies and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas." Look at the Suns franchise, they cheated themselves out of a few championships trading away Deng, Johnson, Rudy Fernandez, Rondo, Nate Robinson etc.
    I don't disagree with you. But the time to build in the Sam Presti mold was early in LeBron's career when the Cavaliers were in the lottery. Presti has had top-five picks with which to build around Durant and to his credit, he's taken advantage of them.

    It's just tough to build that way when you're in the Playoffs every year and drafting at #19 and below every year.

    And to a certain extent LeBron has to take the blame for the "win-now" mentality. You need a long-term commitment from your superstar to build slowly and he hasn't even come close to offering it.

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    That's a good point JoeTait, right when they got the #1 pick in 03, it woulda been smart to bring in a new GM and coaching staff and trade for young players/picks.

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    The problem was not the role players, or the coach. James is not superstar material. He's failed on so many levels at delivering the big game. He had the best team this year, but the guy would rather do commercials..
    The fact that LeBron is 6'9" and 270, has been in the NBA for seven years, and still can't play with his back to the basket speaks volumes.

    LeBron will never win a le as the primary option until he gets it through his thick skull that he needs to develop a functional post game.

    At this point, though, I doubt that's ever going to happen. He's surrounded by ass-kissers and syncophants who won't tell him what he needs to hear- and that includes the LeBron groupies in the fanbase who give him credit for every success and blame every failure on someone else.

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    Problem in retrospect was that there was already one guy in the starting five who couldn't guard anyone in Mo Williams. Jamison made two. It's tough to win in the playoffs when 40% of your starting lineup are turnstiles defensively. .
    Yes,it is.

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