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He killed at least one person, that's what he at least deserves.
He deserves a lot worse than that.
Yeah, you are right about how he is treated. He will probably be treated much harder than in Europe for example, by the police, interrogation etcetera
From what I've read in a newspaper is that he wants to try to spend his prison time in the Netherlands when he gets convicted, because Dutch prisons are like hotels, while these prisons in Peru are holes, he will get beaten up, raped, terrible cells. But I dont think its possible.
He killed at least one person, that's what he at least deserves.
He deserves a lot worse than that.
He will get what is coming to his punk ass......................
From what I heard this morning on the Today show (top notch reporting...always...) they said that in Peru you get a bit of credit for confessing. He will only face 35 years in jail after confessing. So, sure we'd all love to see him rot in jail, but to be fair...he'll in his early 60s and be able to be extrudited to Aruba and tried for Holloway's murder in the 2040s...or extrudited to the US and tried on extortion charges..anyway.
I don't understand why people think he'll somehow get a worst punishment in Peru. Yeah, their jails are probably a lot worst in terms of quality of living but Peru has no death penalty and no life sentence. Plus, if their justice system is anything like ours (Argentina) the dude will be out on time to attend the next world cup...
I heard last night that the prison he is going to has about 20-30 prisoners per cell. Its not 1 or 2 per cell, its a group. They also said there are lots of shankings there. Van der sloop will not make it.
dude,..............people are making voodoo dolls of this dude in the streets. he's pretty much dead.
yeah...
Here's to hoping!
vbookie?
Go by days, weeks, or months?
He will get a fair trial and legal system and punishment in Peru is not so different from other countries, but the jails and how they treat prisoners is a lot harder than what he is used to in Holland or Aruba. He knows that, that's why he tries ( if its true though ) to serve his jailtime in holland, but that's not possible.
I hope he rots in there, he deserves it
i'll give them the benefit of the doubt. i say 2 to 3 months. he might already have a boyfriend.
can I ask you something? how exactly do you know so much about Peru's legal system and their jails?
he doesn't
Because this whole joran subject is very popular here and there is a lot going on in the media. Ive read a lot about it, I see a lot about it and we've talked about it in classes. They show a lot and talk a lot about this subject and jails and punishments in Peru because of this whole Joran thing.
I dont know much about Peru legal system persee, but their legal system is identical to the Dutch legal system and I do know a lot about the Dutch legal system because of my studies.
plus about the prisons and harsh punishments in peru prisons, ive read about it. There are guidelines or information reports made by the Government of the Kingdom of Netherlands about Peru, their legal system and how they treat suspects/inmates. There everything is told in detail on how they will treat a suspect or convict in Peru. Ive read a lot of those.
Last edited by Bukefal; 06-08-2010 at 01:56 PM.
sounds like you don't know about prisons in Peru. If you have money you could live like a king in Peru jails. Money talks even in jail.
You can have guards serving you room service if you want. At the same time, since this guy is high profile it will be up to the Peru polliticians to decide the fate of this guy.
Regardless NO, Peru jail or court system is nothing like Netherlands
But you cant deny that Peru prisons are a lot harder and tougher in treatening inmates than in other countries, especially the Netherlands. Because it is, especially harder than what joran is used to.
If you have money, yeah if you are rich and can buy people. But is Joran rich? No he isnt, he cant do with money in Peru's jail.
And yes, it is like the Netherlands, solely the system. Of course in Peru corruption, politics has a bigger part in it. But I do think he will get a fair trial. The only thing im saying is, he is treated a lot harder than he would be treated in the Netherlands or other countries. You cant deny that.
Besides, why do you bring the money thing up, thats not even what were talking about. Were talking about how they treat prisoners in peru and conditions of prisons in peru. Im just saying that they are treated harder. Money and what they do next in prison, is another thing.
bull , where is your proof that Peru prison are harder in treating inmates? It's so overcrowded that there is no control. But if you have money you can pretty much get anything. How is that harder than other countries??
I thought he had moneyIf you have money, yeah if you are rich and can buy people. But is Joran rich? No he isnt, he cant do with money in Peru's jail.
bull again. You cannot guarantee he will get a fair trial or get treated harder than other countries. Going to trial in those countries is like playing russian roulette, you never know what's gonna happenAnd yes, it is like the Netherlands, solely the system. Of course in Peru corruption, politics has a bigger part in it. But I do think he will get a fair trial. The only thing im saying is, he is treated a lot harder than he would be treated in the Netherlands or other countries. You cant deny that.
That being said........the guards and/or the inmates can be bought as assassins as well ...... correct?
It is, not only in treatening inmates, but also its harder for the inmates. There is a lot of violence, overcrowding, bad hygiene, murders, raping. That's common in a lot countries, and I think thats also how prisons should be, hard, i mean its a prison after all, but im just saying, its different than a dutch prison. A dutch prison is like a hotel, everyone has a seperate room, everyone has tv, internet, books, sports, studytime etcetera.... and thats what joran is used to, thats why its hard for him.
No he doesnt, that's why he is trying to set up all kinds of deals with Natalee mother and thats why he was trying to start some kind of pros ution ring in Thailand.I thought he had money
Well, Peru is not that bad as you might think. Their legal system is pretty 'normal' compared to some other southern american countries. From what Ive seen they generally give fair trials. (and im not talking about prison or how people can be bought or corrupt, just about the trial) Joran is not the first Dutch guy to be convicted in Peru you know. Of course there is corruption and probably political messing in cases, but Im just saying in general its pretty fair.bull again. You cannot guarantee he will get a fair trial or get treated harder than other countries. Going to trial in those countries is like playing russian roulette, you never know what's gonna happen
But why do you bring the money thing up, thats not even what were talking about. We are talking about how they treat prisoners in peru and conditions of prisons in peru and I was explaining on the question why I know about this, so I explained that ive learned about this and read about this and because this whole subject is on the media all day long.
Im just saying that they are treated harder and conditions are worse than in holland for example. Money and what they do next in prison, is another thing.
I mean you yourself are saying that prisons are overcrowded and there is corruption and that there is no control, those are aspects of worse conditions right? so those are also worse conditions than in other countries right?
You yourself are saying that when youre there you dont know what to expect or is going to happen, so thats also part of bad conditions. So we're saying almost the same thing. The only thing we are disagreeing about is that I say Peru legal system is better than what you think, that generally there are fair trials (Solely the trials and their legal system) because of past trials, their history. You say its unfair and that I say that Dutch legal system is identical to Peruvian legal system, well thats true, just about the system im talking about. You say its not. And you know how?
So why are you attacking me and accusing me I know . Or is it because of what your username says and you are just that, a hater?
That dude was just perusing around looking for his next victim.
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