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So you have absolutely no hope for Drew Luva? None at all?
I still think one more year is when the Lakers will know for sure if he's damaged goods or not. He's 22 not even at his prime a young-un of sorts.
The latter.
I want nothing, absolutely zilch to do with Chris Bosh.
No.
So you have absolutely no hope for Drew Luva? None at all?
I still think one more year is when the Lakers will know for sure if he's damaged goods or not. He's 22 not even at his prime a young-un of sorts.
Bynum is a better fit for the Lakers because he's a much better defender than Bosh, but a core of Kobe, Gasol and Bosh?
To be fair to Bosh, he played pretty well against ORL (24/9). The previous year against NJ, he was double- and triple- teamed on most possessions the entire series because there was no one else that could hurt them.
But no, he's not elite. He could be a pretty good #2 guy on a championship-caliber team, though. But if he's a bad defender it's not because he makes bone-headed rotations, gambles on defense or is generally disinterested. It's because he gets bullied down low by more physical players (even a 45 year old fat ) and he has Bargnani with him.
It doesn't speak volumes at all. The Orlando Magic was a creampuff, inexperienced 3 point shooting team with a fake "superstar" center, and on top of that was missing one of their best players and PG in Jameer Nelson. That series wasn't even close to physical. The Lakers beating that team without Bynum wasn't really a shock. The Magic were the East version of the Phoenix Suns when it comes to style of play.
It's not a one OR the other proposition for me.Bynum is a better fit for the Lakers because he's a much better defender than Bosh, but a core of Kobe, Gasol and Bosh?
Bosh is a loser.
Bynum is a winner.
Bynum plays for a franchise that has Jerry Buss for an owner, Phil Jackson as its head coach, and Kobe as its best player. Bynum is no more of a winner than Chris Bosh.
72 games of Bosh, I just think Bynum's injuries are more bad luck than being fragile. This year, he played 65 games and Bosh played 70.
Yes Gasol has worked his tail off to defend pick and rolls really well, but Bynum still plays a huge role in their system as the guy who rotates over to jam the paint up, similar to Boston's system with KG and Perkins. IMO, if you move Gasol to center and make it so he has to defend the low post and play a more physical role it hurts him defensively. He's excelled at the defensive role he has, why that up?
This is speculation but Bosh seems like someone who would have no way of being productive as the 3rd option. I don't see him stepping up his defense because his role is lessened on offense (he seems a lot like Amare where his defense would actually get worse because the lack of touches would lead to a loss of focus).
So in essence we agree on most stuff except I think Bynum will start playing more than 56 games a year. If Bynum will be limited by injuries his entire career, I trade him for Bosh in a heartbeat if I'm LA, just my opinion he'll start staying healthy.
Originally Posted by lakaluva
The simple fact that the Lakers won a le without Bynum speaks volumes.
Nobody wants to credit Bynum for his defense on Howard and his contribution to the '09 Championship because Media didn't lead the way, Jackson didn't herald the moment, we weren't led by the nose to it.
Please. I ain't anybody's fart catcher.
& I know the difference twixt Nutella and a pile of .
Cept Bynum actually did it.
Bosh and his minions talk about it.
Agreed.
How dumb will the Lakers look if he is shipped out, somehow gets on a strict physical regiment to strengthen his knees (unlike any other he's seen with the Laker trainers) and blossoms into a beast under some other teams watch?
Funny things can happen.
I like Bosh. I just don't think he's a fit. If anything Drew is a winner by default because even though he hasn't really participated fully in any finals, he's been there and understands the pressure albeit through his teammates.
That's why they play 48 minutes a game, Luva.
Last I checked, the Lakers won it all last year while getting minimal contributions from Bynum in the playoffs. Unless you want to argue that Bynum would turn the Raptors into some sort of powerhouse...which he wouldn't.
Now you're just lying. How sad
You're like most of these children here, Fin, if it ain't got 20/10 in the box score you immediately tune it out.
You must've missed where I said Bynum is a better fit on paper for the Lakers because he's a much better defender than Bosh, and where I said I wouldn't consider a Bynum/Bosh swap from the Lakers perspective if Bynum could stay healthy.You're like most of these children here, Fin, if it ain't got 20/10 in the box score you immediately tune it out.
You must have forgotten that Bosh was a joke in Toronto. Especially when Bynum was guarding him
Well, then quit talking out both sides of your mouth.
Go ahead and show me where I quit on Bynum during the playoffs. Oh that's right you can't.
As I said before the post season even began was that Bynum will be needed in the finals. It's not his fault the West is full of a bunch of heartless, no defense playing, undersized pussies.
Nutella's pretty damn good, IMHFO. but unhealthy (like Bynum) LOLOLOLOLOLOOL
Who says I'm doing that? It's not ting on Bynum to say that a Kobe/Gasol/Bosh trio would be a powerhouse team that other clubs wouldn't be able to deal with. The Lakers have options most teams don't, and they'd be absolutely stupid to hang up on the Raptors and not at least consider a Bynum/Bosh trade.
Apology accepted.
When Bynum was ting on the Suns in game 6 you were nowhere to be found
When Bynum was getting beasted on by Lopez, you were nowhere to be found.
CP3/Okafor for Bynum and fillers this summer.
Testify 21, testify!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!When Bynum was ting on the Suns in game 6 you were nowhere to be found
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