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  1. #26
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    So outside of the midrange jumper he's no better than Lou Amundson. What I've said all along.
    Kind of like aside from a consistent jumper, nothing separates Tony Allen from Dwyane Wade.

    Smh.

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    Wanted a pic of junior from white men cant jump to go with this quote

    "if Lou Amundson scores 15 and 11 i'll kill myself and I don't wanna do that"

    thats like saying if yao plays a complete season he will win a le

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    Kind of like aside from a consistent jumper, nothing separates Tony Allen from Dwyane Wade.

    Smh.

    So you think that if Tony Allen had a consistent jumper he'd be Dwayne Wade? I find that hard to believe.

    Those big games you mentioned prove my point. Do you see any of the Lakers' bigs making an effort to jump out and contest David Lee's jumpers during the regular season? Do you see any of them caring enough during the regular season to keep David Lee off the glass on an every possession basis? I sure as don't. Lou Amundson had a double double against LA this year with virtually no plays run through him so all of his production came off hustle and wanting it more.

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    Lee and Amare would be an unbelievably bad defensive duo in the paint.

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    Tony Allen is annually among the worst players in the league in turnover ratio. He had the worst turnover ratio of all shooting guards in the league two years ago, and was awful last year as well. He has a very weak handle because of his high dribble and compounds his lack of dribbling ability by making dumb decisions. There's more than a lack of shooting ability that hampers his offensive game.

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    I thought if Amare was headed anywhere it would be miami since its his home state.

    Cant believe he is leaving after one of phx's most productive seasons. he didnt even stick around for nash's final season after everything nash has done for him.

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    I thought if Amare was headed anywhere it would be miami since its his home state.

    Cant believe he is leaving after one of phx's most productive seasons. he didnt even stick around for nash's final season after everything nash has done for him.
    He was low-balled by Sarver. Amare's max is not 5/100, it's 6/130. Phoenix only guaranteed him 56/3 and 2 more at 40/not guaranteed. He'd a been nuts to take the Sun's offer.

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    he should of called sarver a chicken and showed up on the 10 o clock news doing the chicken dance

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    So you think that if Tony Allen had a consistent jumper he'd be Dwayne Wade? I find that hard to believe.

    Those big games you mentioned prove my point. Do you see any of the Lakers' bigs making an effort to jump out and contest David Lee's jumpers during the regular season? Do you see any of them caring enough during the regular season to keep David Lee off the glass on an every possession basis? I sure as don't. Lou Amundson had a double double against LA this year with virtually no plays run through him so all of his production came off hustle and wanting it more.
    No, I don't. I was making fun of you thinking that a midrange jumper is the only thing that separates David Lee from Louis Amundson.

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    Of course I ignore most of your posts and I didn't see you make such a comment before. In fact, I didn't read your post in this thread until you quoted mine.

    So I guess it wasn't an echo, just two different birds unknowingly chirping the same thing.
    You assured me once I quit nagging you about your award we'd be peaches.

    What happened? -bells, if you're still putting me in the deep freeze I might as well bust your chops over the Award.

    Yes?

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    You assured me once I quit nagging you about your award we'd be peaches.

    What happened? -bells, if you're still putting me in the deep freeze I might as well bust your chops over the Award.

    Yes?
    Got no problem. I merely responded to you. Did not cuss you out. Did not talk down to you. Simply told you what was up.

    You've done well not to continue going award crazy with your posts. I ignore most of your posts with regularity but so what? If you decide you want to resurrect that little poo party, you may force me to really in fact namlock ignore list you. I found it that annoying.

    Your choice.

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    Lakers should get in on this. Offer shooting of the dead eye Sasha Vujacic and the dominating passing skills of Luke Walton. The Bricks would come out on top if that deal was made.

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    DOK with some serious Post aMare Sickness :P


    Lee would be great adition to the Suns. He would be recieving passes from Nash and Dragic instead of whoever plays PG in NY... Duhon or who was it?

    Lopez/Lee/Dudley/Dragič would be a solid core on which to build on in the future... Trading Nash for a solid young SG would be awsome too.

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    Got no problem. I merely responded to you. Did not cuss you out. Did not talk down to you. Simply told you what was up.

    You've done well not to continue going award crazy with your posts. I ignore most of your posts with regularity but so what? If you decide you want to resurrect that little poo party, you may force me to really in fact namlock ignore list you. I found it that annoying.

    Your choice.
    I was just checkin' assholes, and your's needed it.

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    No, I don't. I was making fun of you thinking that a midrange jumper is the only thing that separates David Lee from Louis Amundson.

    What else does?

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    basketball talent

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    DOK with some serious Post aMare Sickness

    I've been calling David Lee an overrated rich man's Louis Amundson long before Amare signed with New York. He's just the latest addition to the long list of players who've had their numbers inflated by D'antoni, his numbers even moreso because he did it on a ty team.

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    basketball talent

    So you can't point out anything specific. Thanks for proving my point.

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    I'll feel a bit better if the Suns can get Lee, but anything short of Dirk is a downgrade and that's impossible now.

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    It's gonna be even more impossible to rebuild if the Suns give David Lee a 5 year deal in the 8-9 million range like they probably will. Of all teams and fan bases that should have learned their lesson about D'antoni inflating #'s and making players appear better than they really are, the Suns and Suns fans should know best, yet they're falling for this stupid crap. The biggest role David Lee will ever have on a championship team is a 25 MPG 6th man.

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    It's gonna be even more impossible to rebuild if the Suns give David Lee a 5 year deal in the 8-9 million range like they probably will. Of all teams and fan bases that should have learned their lesson about D'antoni inflating #'s and making players appear better than they really are, the Suns and Suns fans should know best, yet they're falling for this stupid crap. The biggest role David Lee will ever have on a championship team is a 25 MPG 6th man.
    Then as a GM, what do you suggest the Suns do right now considering the current contracts they have? Who should the go after? No one?

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    Then as a GM, what do you suggest the Suns do right now considering the current contracts they have? Who should the go after? No one?

    Yup, no one. Once they decided not to give Amare a guaranteed 5 years and he went to New York it was time to rebuild and start stockpiling young players and draft picks while clearing cap room, not overpaying overvalued role players like Frye, Warrick and Lee. They shouldn't be in win now mode yet they're making moves as if they are.

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    The Suns should TOTALLY agree to a sign and trade, to further screw the GeriatriKnick-Suns... Just because...

    The signing of Amare by the GeriatriKnick-Suns guarantee the mediocrity of that franchise for the next 5 years...

    And this makes the Suns better with a positive at ude change.

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    Lee was overrated for a while earlier in the season, but he's a good player, especially in a system like you see in Phoenix..

    The biggest improvement in his game was that he added efficiency and range to his mid-range jump shot..a 10% improvement overall, but he added effectiveness to his range, all the way around the top of the key to inside the 3-point line..

    Lee, like Stoudemire, is a horrible defender..the difference is that he's a very solid defensive rebounder, unlike Amare..it doesn't make up for his defensive deficiencies, but it's an upgrade over Amare on the defensive end..

    Also, unlike Stoudemire, Lee is a good passer and always has been..there's also an obvious difference in rebounding..

    Amare is a much, much more explosive player..he strikes more fear into the other team, he creates off the dribble better, he's a better finisher..scoring is the only advantage Stoudemire has over him, although it's obviously a huge advantage..

    Lee would be a downgrade from Amare, but he would definitely be a very good addition to the Suns system, and he would be a big part in keeping them in the playoffs, maybe keeping them in the 2nd round..

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    David Lee has touch around the rim. I've seen Lou miss a five foot put back attempt by 4 feet.

    David Lee has become a competent if not solid passer. Lou couldn't pass the basketball if it was intestinal gas.

    David Lee can actually dribble the basketball. My 7 year old niece can dribble the basketball better than Louis Amundson. But to be fair, my niece can dribble the basketball pretty good for a 7 year old girl.

    David Lee isn't a very good defender, but he's become more than just a rebounder. He's active enough to be good for a steal or two each game. Amundson hustles a lot but doesn't give anything much more than rebounding.

    David Lee can attack the basket off the dribble. Lou might be able to attack the basket off the dribble by dribbling the basketball off of his foot.

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