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    Every person I associate with has kids, some spank, and some don't; some have good kids, some have brats---I really haven't seen an association either way.
    Maybe not if you're talking about the occasional, "All right, you've really mouthed off one last time today and I'm getting the spoon (or "reminder stick" as it's called in my house )." But I've noticed the kids of parents who routinely overreact and go too far are monsters. It's sad, because they're fearful of their parents, but they haven't learned discipline or self-control, just that if they catch their mom in the wrong mood she's going to beat their ass. A friend of ours told me how she beat her four-year-old because he said the workd . So... she tried to teach her child that saying the wrong word is bad by causing him pain... doesn't make sense to me.

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    caning ftw

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    This is a bunch of hog wash. I would have whooped you plenty.
    Did your parents beat you every time you didn't grow enough tomatoes and curry?

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    And some kids need spankings, some kids need to get beat to a bloody pulp, and some kids don't need to get hit at all. It varies.

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    I don't have kids, but it wasn't that long ago that I was one. When a kid is spanked, he learns to think before he acts... he thinks of what the consequences might be and if you're getting spanked for it then it might be wrong. They don't think about right or wrong though, they think about whether they could get spanked for it. Yes, there is fear involved... but you need that. Respecting elders isn't bad either..
    Eh, I tend to disagree. That's true of some kids - pretty effective for me as a child. I definitely thought about what might happen before I did things and the threat of a spanking was enough to get me shape up right away. I can probably count the total number of times I was ever spanked as a child.

    My brother, on the other hand, was not that type of kid. He didn't like getting spanked, but it happened a lot - usually precisely because he didn't think. I can remember him getting spanked for wandering off at the park and getting lost when he was told to stay in a certain area, and for riding his bike directly out in front of a moving car. That never made him stop and think, because he continued to do dumb like that, got spanked and then forgot about it and then did it all over again.

    However, taking away his bike made him remember. Making him spend three hours in the yard picking up rocks for backtalking my dad made him think. Being grounded and not allowed to watch tv or play video games or see his friends made him think (he had nothing else to do).

    So . . . no spankings aren't always necessary or effective. Different children respond to different sorts of incentives.

    And no, you should never beat your kids.

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    Eh, Fuck It. easjer's Avatar
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    A friend of ours told me how she beat her four-year-old because he said the workd . So... she tried to teach her child that saying the wrong word is bad by causing him pain... doesn't make sense to me.
    I babysat for a couple who made their kids eat hot sauce or super hot salsa when they cursed. Not much, like a teaspoon, but that caused pain. Also seemed pretty effective. Never could quite decide how I felt about it.

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    My daddy mainly put me in what momma liked to call "time out".

    They still make me mend fences all day long in the hot sun,
    at my ranch in Crawford, Texas, when I'm bad.

    It was terrible one evening. I wanted to watch I love Lucy, then go to my room
    and make a plan to end the world, but daddy made me mend fences all night till I learned to eat my squash for supper.

    That night I then decided to run for President of the United States of America.

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    warning, time-out, whuppin'. In that order.
    X2 .............. this is exactly how I handle it.

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    One thing........... It also depends on the child..........my first two were good kids, maybe spanked them once each...........now my 4yr old......I spank him a few times each week...........when the warning and the time-out didnt do a damned thing.

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    One thing........... It also depends on the child..........my first two were good kids, maybe spanked them once each...........now my 4yr old......I spank him a few times each week...........when the warning and the time-out didnt do a damned thing.
    Yes it does depend on the child; a spanking for my oldest would just strengthen his resolve, my middle child is the most defiant but also the one who is the quickest to realize the error of her ways, my youngest can be totally redirected with "the look".

    While I am not against spanking, I am definitely against the mindset that spanking is the only way, the most effective way, or as one of the earlier posters noted several times, the easiest way to discipline. I don't like the "spanking for everyone" rule because for people who don't have experience with kids and are perhaps a bit lacking in reasoning skills, I've all too often seen it applied to 3 month olds who won't stop crying or 2 yr olds who wet their pants---all with very tragic results.

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    Yes it does depend on the child; my youngest can be totally redirected with "the look".
    The "smart ass"???

    Really???

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    Huge difference between "beating" and "spanking".

    No child should ever be "beaten" by their parents. There is a huge amount of research to suggest it heightens aggression, impatience, anti-social behavior, etc.

    If you need to "beat" your kid to get them to behave, then you've already failed as a parent.

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    I knew a guy who's dad threw gas on his leg and burned it because he broke a window when he was 8. The dad was drunk and the kid learned to not break windows anymore. The kid eventually became a serious drug addict and ended up dying in a drunken car accident later in life but he didn't break anymore windows. So I guess that punishment worked to an extent.

    works for me, beating kids works!

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    The arm bar, triangle and rear naked choke works as well.

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    Corporal punishment always has negative results…Teach your children, be a positive example, don’t hit them…

    Look at it this way…Do you want your children to end up being 30 years old, living in your garage, posting hateful messages in Spurs Talk political forum, smoking marijuana, driving an old beat up Land Cruiser & thinking they have arrived…Well then just continue the awful cycle & beat your kids…

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    Looks like a lot of people in ST were beat when the were children.

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    Let me guess, you are white.
    Nope, wrong again.

    My experience as a teacher, as a kid, and as a parent is that often parents hit or even yell at their kids when the parent has emotionally lost it and is frustrated or unable to deal with the situation. So the parent gets emotional satisfaction out of it.

    I am not denying that a spanking is wrong in all cases for all kids. But I do think that a vast majority of kids can be trained without needing physical punishment. Again, that is from working with hundreds of kids over 10 years as a teacher.

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    You HAVE to. Your children will become spoiled brats even as they grow if you don't give them some physical punishment. They think that "eh, mom/dad won't spank me anyway so I'll continue this "

    But "beat" is a strong word.
    WRONG. My kid knows that if he pulls , his life will not be fun, and I don't have to touch him. Believe me, the thought of no TV or video games alone is a strong stick.

    I have seen pretty "bad" kids as a teacher, and those kids were definitely motivated by recess. The kids that needed more were extreme exceptions.

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    Depends on the kid. I have seen plenty of kids who purposely misbehave so they can get spanked, because that is the only way the parents pay attention to them. In this case, they learn nothing from the spanking or beating other than 'well at least mommy/daddy paid attention to me."

    It's sad, but true. I laugh when I see people talk about 'kids today' because those kids often don't know better, it's the parents who failed them.

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    I beat my kids just for the of it. Only open-handed though. Sometimes backhand.

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