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    Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Viva Las Espuelas's Avatar
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    I understand your point of view and for the most part I agree...

    except...that when goes down...it is NEVER like you thought it would be...

    can get messy and can go very much in the opposite way than what you thought it would...

    then, you can also shoot a burglar...it turns out he may not die...he will turn around and sue you...

    you can shoot an intruder...he may die...then his brother or cousin or someone else will come after you for revenge...on & on & on...

    so much can go wrong...they could be on the way out and you decide to shoot...then he shoots back and kills your kid, your wife,son,etc...

    you will live with the fact that you coulda let him go and instead...now your family is dead,etc....all to save a tv or a stereo...
    You need to quit watching Boyz in the Hood.

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    You need to quit watching Boyz in the Hood.
    That was actually a pretty good movie.

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    Yeah, of course if you are hunting, target practicing,etc...

    but usually those places have rules of safety and usually the people partaking in these activities are pretty safety conscious-and respectful of weapons in general...

    I meant it more for people who think it might be cool to show their buddies or flash it around to intimidate or horseplay,etc... that is just asking for trouble.
    right on thats what i figured. and i concur

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    Thanks for the suggestions!
    Money is not an issue so the Benelli is a good idea 'cause you might forget to back a pump action when your adrenalin is pumping. And the birdshot was also suggested by the gun shop this for drywalls since it has smaller pellets.

    It might sound overkill but I want a handgun combo with the shotgun since I want to be armed in less than 5 secs so I will buy a biometric vault and stash the handgun in there and place it by the nightstand and the shotgun will be in a locked case in the closet away from my son.

    I'll definitely spend a lot of time in firing classes to learn the right stance, misfirings, jam situations and getting rid of the twitching from the recoil. I also want to know how disorienting the sound of a gun fire indoors specially from a shotgun..they said the sound causes temporary blindness.

    Our bedroom area will be our panic area so when they get tempted to come close then Id rather suffer the PTSD or the lawsuit battle from the shooting than risking druggies doing further damage like harming my family.

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    Never Forget David HighLowLobForBig-50's Avatar
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    just go shoot as much as you can and take your family with you as much as possible. the recoil and sound will be something to get used to but over time it will be a complete non issue/ last of your worries

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    Just remember

    1) I feared for my life

    2) Lawyer


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    Eh, Fuck It. easjer's Avatar
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    Sounds like you are trying to cover bases, but I will reiterate the importance of being trained for all aspects of gun safety - everyone who might have access to the weapons. I do wonder if one would have time, in reality, to retrieve and load a gun if it's locked away from kids. . . but you have to make those safety determinations for yourself.

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    Sounds like you are trying to cover bases, but I will reiterate the importance of being trained for all aspects of gun safety - everyone who might have access to the weapons. I do wonder if one would have time, in reality, to retrieve and load a gun if it's locked away from kids. . . but you have to make those safety determinations for yourself.
    Cabelas demoed a biometric vault and you can be armed in under 5 secs. No reaching for keys in the drawers or punching codes in the dark. The shotgun will be locked in the closet though.
    I try to consider every little thing from safety to engaging a shooter before I buy the guns since it is a real pain in the neck to own one and to secure it.

    Tomorrow is insurance agent day. I want to be sure if insurance will cover when a druggie or dead druggie family sues. And also ask a few questions about neighbor lawsuits for damaged or injured occupants for stray bullets.

    LOL by the time I get done with the state law research, classes and paperworks the hot period for burglaries would have already passed.

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    Here is what I recommend:

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    First get an alarm so you can hear when someone breaks in.

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    I have a S&W .38 revolver within reach when I lay down.

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    I have a S&W .38 revolver within reach when I lay down.
    My S&W 9mm the same, but that is soon to change with a little one on the way.

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    This is my dream home defense weapon.

    PPSH-41



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    Good start...What good is the gun going to do if you can't see anything? Whichever one you choose, make sure it has a light on it...I would put one on each of them.

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    ^word

    You can get small LED flashlights w/ 200 lumens It really is as awesome as it sounds.

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    ^^ The CZ 75 p01 semi auto has a built in night aim.

    I went to a gun club this afternoon and tried the handguns. The CZ was the perfect size for me, my grouping was 3-4 inches apart from each other and the recoil is not bad. Problem with a semi auto is if you want a loaded gun on standby, you have to cycle magazines so the springs wont settle. And also its more prone to jamming and double feed so you have to really learn to manage your gun.
    Then, the guy assisting me showed me a Smith & Wesson 686 .357 magnum revolver. Tried it and whoa! I got rattled the first time shooting that thing. he said it can fire .38 specials to make the recoil a little more manageable.

    Revolvers are also the most reliable, ready to shoot HD guns since they require little maintenance. But the sound...the bang was crazy loud, I wanted to remove my ear protection to experience how it feels shooting it indoors but I was too chicken to do it..i'll probably try it next time.

    If not for the GF, I would've bought the revolver already.

    edit: not really the most accurate gun. my grouping, shooting the .357 was as big as a cantaloupe from 10 yards. I still would've gotten it though.

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    No im not gonna get a rifle or even the shotgun anymore. Revolver is the number 1 choice right now.

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    No im not gonna get a rifle or even the shotgun anymore. Revolver is the number 1 choice right now.
    ...

    If you chose a first handgun with a girl in a mind a revolver is a better solution. No jams, no ing(most). Just point and shoot and I doubt more than 6 shots would be needed for any home confrontations.

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