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Train for misfeeds/malfunctions and know what is behind the wall you are shooting.
So we got a letter about burglaries happening 3 straight days to 5 residences. Now me being a paranoid nut decided I'm going to get a home protection gun.
A friend recommended a 12 gauge short barrel shotgun and a handgun combo. I currently live by myself but in a few months, my gf will be moving in with me so I want to be sure she can comfortably shoot with them. Anyone here have these guns? Suggestions?
Mossberg 500 12g pump action shotgun with the same setup like in this pic
or/and a CZ 75
Train for misfeeds/malfunctions and know what is behind the wall you are shooting.
That's the other thing I'm thinking of, I have to consider the stopping power of these guns so I can hit the bad guys and not the good guys on the other room.
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I have a glock 30 .45 cal that has worked like a charm at the shooting range. I havn't tried any of those guns you are talking about though so I'm not sure on those.
i believe it doesnt made what kind of gun you have or dont have....just learn how to shoot it.
Whats your budget? Your girlfriend will be better with an auto-loader than a pump. If money is no object get a Benelli M4. If you are in an apartment load it with #4 bird shot. You will still em up real bad at close range but it won't kill through walls. Forget about a pistol unless you are prepared to put in the practice time to be 100% automatic/proficient when you are half asleep.
I personally think the shotgun is impractical...
you will have to decide where to store it...it is not like you can leave it in the nightstand next to the bed...and if it is in some closet...you would have to go to the closet in an emergency...but what if you aren't able to?
The shotgun will also intimidate your girl...so she probably won't be too confident in handling it...
A 9mm glock is light, powerful and easy to conceal,easy to shoot after a few sessions at the shooting range....
but I would hope you reconsider because what most people don't know is that having a gun in a residence only adds danger to any situation...
besides..if the burglars are taking stuff....so what...just insure your stuff and learn to file claims to get reimbursed...
This one will protect you if you're ever robbed by a bear.
Shotgun w/ shorter barrel so you can move it around the apartment. If it was a house I'd use buckshot but CC has it right with birdshot in an apartment. If you put the pistol grip on it, I don't think your gf would have a problem with it. Pick up the pistol also so you and your girl can go to the shooting range and pick up a hobby together, it's fun.
I don't care for the Mossberg 500 though, it's rickity as but it fires in the direction you point it so it's fine and it doesn't cost much.
Whatever kind of gun you get if you ever have to use it keep shooting till they quit twitching or you run out of bullets.
I totaly reccomend one of these.
In fact, get a second just in case really pops off.
Set up a view screen and joystick in your bedroom, of course some motion detection and laser trip wires around your perimeter and you are good to go!
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Or just load hollow-tips and save the rest of the shots for any friends that might have been brought along (assuming you're in Texas; I don't know how legal that ammo is in other places).
Shotgun is under my bed in it's case, unzipped. Just reach and grab. If someone with a child is coming over, then I lock it up.
If she's intimidated by shooting a 12g she would be shooting a semi auto probably. If you chose a first handgun with a girl in a mind a revolver is a better solution. No jams, no ing(most). Just point and shoot and I doubt more than 6 shots would be needed for any home confrontations.
So what if they rob you?
Shotgun is under my bed in it's case, unzipped. Just reach and grab. If someone with a child is coming over, then I lock it up.
If she's intimidated by shooting a 12g she would be shooting a semi auto probably. If you chose a first handgun with a girl in a mind a revolver is a better solution. No jams, no ing(most). Just point and shoot and I doubt more than 6 shots would be needed for any home confrontations.
So what if they rob you?
Of course it sux to get robbed...but If you have to choose between ending someone's life and replacing a TV...
after all the tough talk...it really is a burden to you and your family for a long, long time in many ways...
that is reality...not shooting people dead like in the movies...
Yep, people never talk about the PSTD they suffer after killing an intruder, instead of killing pixels.
Chances are better that a family member or friend will be killed accidentally and/or drunkenly and/or crime-of-passion, than an intruder being killed.
Most intruders work very hard to time their intrusion when nobody's home. They don't want to encounter anybody, armed or not.
As far as I'm concerned when he makes the conscious decision to break into my house he is making a conscious decision to risk death. I would shoot his ass without the slightest twinge of guilt.
I understand your point of view and for the most part I agree...
except...that when goes down...it is NEVER like you thought it would be...
can get messy and can go very much in the opposite way than what you thought it would...
then, you can also shoot a burglar...it turns out he may not die...he will turn around and sue you...
you can shoot an intruder...he may die...then his brother or cousin or someone else will come after you for revenge...on & on & on...
so much can go wrong...they could be on the way out and you decide to shoot...then he shoots back and kills your kid, your wife,son,etc...
you will live with the fact that you coulda let him go and instead...now your family is dead,etc....all to save a tv or a stereo...
IMO the probability that the robbers will catch you sleeping and use your own gun on you is higher than the probability of you successfully using the gun on the robbers
i keep my 12g leaning right up next to my night stand with a box of birdshot on the floor. i have a garage full of expensive toys and luckily im a night owl. if i find somebody in my garage my only worry will be to avoid hitting my oxygen and acetylene bottles. besides that its just a matter of reloading but i may or may not have removed the plug allowing me to put 6 s s in. but like some people are saying, whatever you get you have to learn to shoot it. its like anything else, you are at a disadvantage when compared to people like me who have been shooting their whole life, but it can be learned. good luck.
What? this is coming from a former officer??? C'mon man........how many people get robbed and then SHOT dead after by the criminal not wanting witnesses. Im straight up bustin a cap in anyones ass that breaks into my house. I have kids and a wife man. Sorry, thats just the way it is. Oh, and by the way, Im a decent shot. I cant hit the bulleye on a regular at the gun range from 25yds. At 50yds I keep it in the torso about 60-70% of the time.
What? this is coming from a former officer??? C'mon man........how many people get robbed and then SHOT dead after by the criminal not wanting witnesses. Im straight up bustin a cap in anyones ass that breaks into my house. I have kids and a wife man. Sorry, thats just the way it is. Oh, and by the way, Im a decent shot. I cant hit the bulleye on a regular at the gun range from 25yds. At 50yds I keep it in the torso about 60-70% of the time.
I'm with you-but you know, most people have no experience and/or training with weapons and/or high stress situations-and they or their family will unfortunately end up getting hurt.
I am armed at home and I have trained the wife and taken her to the range. She is a real good shot now, but in the beginning-she was afraid to even touch the weapon-let alone fire it. I have done all I can to NEVER have to put my family in that situation...but can happen...
I hope if someone DOES arm themselves...that they take the time to thoroughly train themselves and their loved ones.
The ONLY time...ANYONE should EVER handle a weapon...is to kill someone...
not to play with it...not to show off...not to scare someone....
ONLY when you HAVE to kill someone.
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I agree 100%. I havent taken my wife yet, but I will. My Ex knew how to shoot pretty well...........she learned at the shooting range with me.
ummm... while i understand your point im gonna assume you meant other than target shooting, hunting,cleaning the weapon or putting an injured animal out of its misery, ; yeah besides that you should be all business.
Yeah, of course if you are hunting, target practicing,etc...
but usually those places have rules of safety and usually the people partaking in these activities are pretty safety conscious-and respectful of weapons in general...
I meant it more for people who think it might be cool to show their buddies or flash it around to intimidate or horseplay,etc... that is just asking for trouble.
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