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  1. #26
    that shit i don't like rayjayjohnson's Avatar
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    Meh.

    Melo for boozer, straight swap. Do it, front office.

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    Meh.

    Melo for boozer, straight swap. Do it, front office.
    Chicago would laugh and hang up.

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    den s ain't sellin WC cheap imo. Anthony Randolph & WC will fill in melo's role as da franchise playas. NY would have no bench after trading away AR and WC imho, hard to say if its good deal for dem or not.

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    meh keep Melo and at least watch him lose money

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    I don't see what is it in this proposed trade for the Nuggets that they would not be able to get in a sign and trade in the next offseason, whenever it is. Of course Melo is not going into the lock-out without a contract if he has an ounce of brain in his head.

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    Obviously the pick being discussed is not the Wolves lottery pick. It is the Jazz pick they acquired from the Al Jefferson deal.

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    I don't see what is it in this proposed trade for the Nuggets that they would not be able to get in a sign and trade in the next offseason, whenever it is.
    About 15M in immediate salary and luxury tax savings.

    The trade would also move their total team salary to within 2M of the luxury tax threshold. One more transaction gets them under the tax, saving another 2M and putting them in line to receive to receive the luxury tax distribution (3M or so) after the season.

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    About 15M in immediate salary and luxury tax savings.

    The trade would also move their total team salary to within 2M of the luxury tax threshold. One more transaction gets them under the tax, saving another 2M and putting them in line to receive to receive the luxury tax distribution (3M or so) after the season.
    True, money owed for this season, obviously, I meant more as in actual basketball assets.

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    True, money owed for this season, obviously, I meant more as in actual basketball assets.
    I think that Denver's coming to terms with the simple fact that they're not going to get much in the way of actual basketball assets for Melo. New York knows that Melo is coming their way eventually and everyone else is just getting a rental.

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    Mel_13, what if Denver are poised to play hardball and wouldn't trade Melo for that package from NY, do you think he'd go into the looming lock-out without a contract and without pay? I don't think he would, I think he'd be the first one to blink if Denver are strong enough in their stance.

    Maybe I'm a bit biased towards Denver because I don't like it when players hold their teams and fans to ransom but apart from eventually being able to save some money this season, I don't see much in this for Denver,whereas Melo has a lot to lose in terms of uncertainty being without a contract and then signing one under the new rules, post lock-out. I'd side with Denver and if I were them I'd play hardball, if they can afford it financially, of course, which I believe they could since they've been paying the tax for a while now.

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    Mel_13, what if Denver are poised to play hardball and wouldn't trade Melo for that package from NY, do you think he'd go into the looming lock-out without a contract and without pay? I don't think he would, I think he'd be the first one to blink if Denver are strong enough in their stance.

    Maybe I'm a bit biased towards Denver because I don't like it when players hold their teams and fans to ransom but apart from eventually being able to save some money this season, I don't see much in this for Denver,whereas Melo has a lot to lose in terms of uncertainty being without a contract and then signing one under the new rules, post lock-out. I'd side with Denver and if I were them I'd play hardball, if they can afford it financially, of course, which I believe they could since they've been paying the tax for a while now.
    Melo is under contract for 18.5M for next season. He has an early termination option that allows him to become a free agent this summer, but he doesn't have to exercise it. If Denver played hardball, he could just play out his option and the Melodrama could extend all through next season and into the summer of 2012. A summer that could also see Howard, Paul, and Williams as free agents...

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    Exactly, he won't risk declining his option, wait for the new CBA and sign with the Knicks, he'd simply take the $18.5 mil for next season and remain a Nugget, then the whole trade me drama would probably begin again next season I still think this is the better option for the Nuggets, basketball-wise than taking the low ball NY offer.

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    Exactly, he won't risk declining his option, wait for the new CBA and sign with the Knicks, he'd simply take the $18.5 mil for next season and remain a Nugget, then the whole trade me drama would probably begin again next season I still think this is the better option for the Nuggets, basketball-wise than taking the low ball NY offer.
    The Melodrama continues...

    I'm not sure I agree that having Melo next season on an expiring contract is better than just cutting their losses right now. It's next to impossible to build any sort of chemistry or cohesion while dealing with this BS on a daily basis. Either way, Denver is a non-factor in the Western Conference for the next few seasons and that's fine with me.

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    Obviously the pick being discussed is not the Wolves lottery pick. It is the Jazz pick they acquired from the Al Jefferson deal.
    Then the trade for Randolph makes sense, as this draft is pretty so-so and Brewer is trash. Denver might as well just see if Carmelo is bluffing for that kind of return. Either that, or beg New Jersey to come back to the table.

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