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    You don't trade 7 footers with a decent jump shot. Unless you're getting MJ.
    As stated earlier the Naz/Rasho combo is great. If we make any moves next season I would recommend getting a decent power forward (ie:Scola) since Horry probably has one good year left in him.

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    Because

    1) Robert Horry is going to be around for another 5 years

    2) Same for Bowen.

    I'm a big picture guy, I am talking about locking up the Spurs starting five for the rest of the Tim Duncan era.

    You already got Tim, Manu, Tony, extend Nazr this summer, bring in Scola as a backup big, then send out Rasho for a long SF (someone to matchup with the Rashards, Tayshauns, Marions, Odoms of the world).

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    I like boobs a lot! Slo spurs fan's Avatar
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    I'm still leaning towards signing Big Dog for the MLE (if it still exists), but unless the Cavs can snare Michael Redd, GRob ought to get a nicer offer from Cleveland.

    Big Dog = 20 ppg in Cleveland.
    Why why you you said said this this twice twice? ?

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    Glenn Robinson's defense looked pretty good today. With Popovich as coach I think Glenn will be inspired to play more defense. It's not like he doesn't have the ability to play defense. It is more the mindset and concentration and Pop can help this.

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    so, what's your option IF Nazr's groin will give in during the course of the playoffs, if Malik is the better option or Rasho, esp now that we're playing a top defensive team?


    ..i recommend you examine first the best option.

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    NO!

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    Bowen can guard the more athletic small forwards and Glenn Robinson can guard the bigger small forwards. I would stick with Glenn Robinson. He is a perfect fit being instant offense off the bench and a training camp with Popovich would only help his defense and discipline.

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    Horry has maybe a year left.

    Bowen's maybe got 2-3 years left before his legs go and he starts getting torched like we regularly see happen to Jason Kidd these days.

    Glenn Robinson is not quick enough to guard guys like Odom, Rashard, etc. That's my point. You need someone that can give you that, and the way the league is going the next generation of SF is going to be the long athletic types.

    It's really the only glaring weakness in the Spurs two deep for the rest of the Tim Duncan era.

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    Horry has maybe a year left.

    Bowen's maybe got 2-3 years left before his legs go and he starts getting torched like we regularly see happen to Jason Kidd these days.

    Glenn Robinson is not quick enough to guard guys like Odom, Rashard, etc. That's my point. You need someone that can give you that, and the way the league is going the next generation of SF is going to be the long athletic types.

    It's really the only glaring weakness in the Spurs two deep for the rest of the Tim Duncan era.
    It is not a problem now because no one has been able to exploit it. I would assume that Glenn Robinson wouldn't have as much trouble with Odom as someone like Mcgrady. I haven't seen enough of him but I assume he could hold his own against the bigger small forwards but struggle against the small SF's that are more like shooting guards.

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    So because it hasn't been a problem, you shouldn't address it?

    SA is going to be the team to beat for the remainder of the Tim-Manu-Tony era. That's a fact. And when you're on top, you've got to continually do things to improve your game b/c everyone is shooting for you.

    The long 3 is the Spurs weakness, they need to do something to address it.

    Glenn Robinson is no spring chicken and its assenine to keep thinking he's going to be some kind of defensive stopper/matchup advantage for the next 5-6 years.

    , there's a better than even chance that he won't even be here NEXT year.

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    Any team with this type of player would not trade for Rasho. You will not get anyone better unless it is in the draft. Manu can guard and Bowen can guard the matchups Glenn can't. They are still pretty young and can be effective for 3-5 years.

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    WE would not be in the finals if Malik was on the team at this time..!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Maybe we can trade Rasho to NY for a couple of draft picks.

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    i agree. dude is straight garbage. softest center in the league. whoever said he's top 10 is on crack. he's number 10 if he's lucky

    all of these centers are better than rasho:

    shaq
    yao
    b. miller
    illgauskus
    camby
    wallace
    dampier
    nazr
    okafor
    gadzuric

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    i agree. dude is straight garbage. softest center in the league. whoever said he's top 10 is on crack. he's number 10 if he's lucky

    all of these centers are better than rasho:

    shaq
    yao
    b. miller
    illgauskus
    camby
    wallace
    dampier
    nazr
    okafor
    gadzuric


    For real he could easily play some minutes especialy when they were do in first half.
    Sems that pop is planing some

    But anyway great second half, especal GINOBILI

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    i agree. dude is straight garbage. softest center in the league. whoever said he's top 10 is on crack. he's number 10 if he's lucky

    all of these centers are better than rasho:

    shaq
    yao
    b. miller
    illgauskus
    camby
    wallace
    dampier
    nazr
    okafor
    gadzuric



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    i canīt understand you people ..( haters. so caled.)
    are you blind or just donīt get it.. you donīt have one good center in team, you have two.!! nazr is playing very good.. i was surprised to see him play that good, after his plays in nY and sixers. he has shown that he can be also a solid offensive player.. he is limited, but if he want, he can score. and what is more important.. you have a great coach. no doubt.. pop is the man,. and that he benched rasho is extremly good decision. rasho had a worst season in last few years. and he need to realize, that he hasnīt reach everything in his career, and that he still must to work hard and improve his game. -if he still want to play!! nba.. i hope he is angry right now..sitting on the bench. and will clear his mind till next season, and return ready to comeback. reality is that he is one of the top centers in the league. no doubt about it. he s not explosive, but heīs very mobile for a 7 footer.. and a great defender.. to prove his offence he need to add something more. he need to play with full desire, all the time. he should know, that if he is a starting center, he need to do something more than just defend and help timmy to score point for both. he need to present force also on the offence. if he donīt .. or if he donīt want.. he should sit. thats it..

    he will not be traded.. believe me.. spurs didnīt sign him to be traded. he just have to find the right way.
    and iīm sure that he will start next season. yes he sux now.. but when he donīt he i far faaaaarr better player than nazt, or f.a.c.k.i.nī gadzuric, or dampier and other listed freaks..

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    spurs didnīt sign him to be traded.
    With all due respect, when the Spurs signed him Nazr hadn't fallen in their lap, either.


    Forget it mavsfan. I don't know what you're smoking up there in _allas. It's probably 70-30 or 60-40 that Glenn Robinson won't even be here next year, and you're counting on him to be our "defensive stopper" for the next 3-5.

    I give up.

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    STOP TALKING ABOUT RASHO... NOT SOFT... HES JUST SLOVENIAN... u guys that talk all the about rasho are the ones who dont remember the good times... be back... and having two of the best centers in the league gives us an advantage against teams like miami and others who have good centers

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    Horry has maybe a year left.

    Bowen's maybe got 2-3 years left before his legs go and he starts getting torched like we regularly see happen to Jason Kidd these days.

    Glenn Robinson is not quick enough to guard guys like Odom, Rashard, etc. That's my point. You need someone that can give you that, and the way the league is going the next generation of SF is going to be the long athletic types.

    It's really the only glaring weakness in the Spurs two deep for the rest of the Tim Duncan era.
    I agree. remember how the Glove lost his edge when he hit 35?

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    malik = bad value
    if malik made 2-4 mil/year and never, ever, ever, ever, ever took a shot other then a dunk or layup then I would almost consider it.

    Here's why you don't:

    1. Hopefully horry re-signs this offseason, horry > (malik x 10)
    2. Rasho, though overpaid is a good matchup with shaq (we all know that if wade was healthy mia would be in the finals)
    3. nazr tends to have injury problems so rasho is a great back up and reg season minutes guy (horry rests until the REAL*playoff* season)
    4. We got scola comin in next year


    Hope that's enough logic for you. My advice, think with your head not your heart unless you want to be the rockets toward the end of hakeems career.

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    Trade Rasho to Dallas for Josh Howard. They'd do it, and that solves the long SF problem. Mavs are lucky to have Howard. He's the next Bowen, in my opinion, and he's a better scorer/rebounder than Bowen is.

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    Since when did we have a problem with long sf? Last I recalled anthony didn't do to well against us. Who else is a long sf? Odom plays the 4, so does dirk. Oh yeah that lewis didn't do so well when he was healthy when freakin barry was guarding him.

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    Trade Rasho to Dallas for Josh Howard. They'd do it, and that solves the long SF problem. Mavs are lucky to have Howard. He's the next Bowen, in my opinion, and he's a better scorer/rebounder than Bowen is.
    If the Mavs actually did that deal, the DFW media would be convinced Avery Johnson is still working for the Spurs.

    Josh Howard is exactly the player the Spurs would be looking to get. Dallas will not do a deal that makes the Spurs better any more than the Spurs would have made a deal five years ago that made the Lakers better.

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    Since when did we have a problem with long sf? Last I recalled anthony didn't do to well against us. Who else is a long sf? Odom plays the 4, so does dirk. Oh yeah that lewis didn't do so well when he was healthy when freakin barry was guarding him.
    Bowen is like 34. Ideally, the Spurs would like a guy a little bit taller once Bowen goes into decline, which will start in the next year or two.

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    i agree. dude is straight garbage. softest center in the league. whoever said he's top 10 is on crack. he's number 10 if he's lucky

    all of these centers are better than rasho:

    shaq
    yao
    b. miller
    illgauskus
    camby
    wallace
    dampier
    nazr
    okafor
    gadzuric
    Gadzuric?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!!??!?! Dude, what are you smoking?!?!!!!!??!!

    Gads is AWFUL!
    Oh, and Okafor is a PF, so is Camby pretty much.

    My list of Top centers would go:
    1.Shaq
    2.Yao
    3.Big Ben
    4.Z
    5.Miller
    6.Nazr
    7.Dampier
    8.Rasho
    9.Eddy Curry
    10. Crap, cant think, who else is a decent center in the league??

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