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666! yeah!
Why do you entertain the idea of Noah existing in the first place?
666! yeah!
Why don't you, when his name appears in at least 3 cultures history?
Are you talking about Jews, Christians and Muslims? That doesn't really count, since they all use the same source material.
You have one dubious source from thousands of years ago and zero evidence.
You mean the story of the flood was actually Mesopotamian or Zorastrian in origin unlike the crock of you are feeding us.
As for your coronal eruption theory, your combination of H ions and oxygen is called combustion, dimwit. I know youre not an expert on heat exchange but that was extra special dumb.
The story of the flood comes from the lands of marduk first before the Jewish faith coopted it. Most likely it was a local event such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_theory that was blown out of proportion and made into something done by the gods because people did that with what they could not explain. Just like the sun, love, thunder, fertility, death etc gods of old.
Did God ever pay any child support on Jesus?
There's no reason to believe the 40 days/nights tale. Rain for a long ing time, sure, but numbers from hand-me down stories are rarely accurate.
The fact that the story included into the history of life as we know it, according to Christians, is really a debilitating aspect of the Bible.
The concept that only one person/family on Earth believed in God enough to give a says a lot about the concept of God. There were no scientific methods back then, most people weren't rational thinkers. Most believed what they saw, heard or felt. Some believed stories of gods.
Why did God allow the Earth to get to the point where he was ready to start over? Imagine doing that with a huge project at your job. "I know we've spent years on this, but I don't like it. it, kill it and we can start over... but save James Noah, he's not responsible for ing it up... how do we save him when we are demolishing the entire compound? Oh, give him a heads up and have him build a boat... yeah I know we could just ferry him out with a copter or something, but if he doesn't want to do that work, he needs to go as well, plus it will be fun watching that er grab two of every office supply".
The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...
yup....makes sense to billions of people....proving that we live in an insane asylum....
Funny how some people are so gullible to quote a science book written in the 60s and yet dismiss something written in many books 1000s of years ago by more than one nation of people.
Anyone who doesn't think the world was flooded at one time is either blind , or the most ignorant person on earth.
"Bones of Whale have been found 440 feet above sea level, north of Lake Ontario; a skeleton of another whale was discovered in Vermont, more than 500 feet above sea level; and still another in the Montreal-Quebec area, about 600 feet above sea level..."
Just because you believe the earth was flooded at one time doesn't mean you support the Bible or support Noah but people with small minds can't seem to be able to grasp that.
I have little patients with such people.
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You realize that San Antonio, the one that is 660 ft above sea level, used to be underwater right?
.Plate Tectonics.
Thanks. That was comedy gold.
Typical atheist response. No answers so they have to resort to posting youtube videos of comics bashing religion.
Check ing mate.
I don't support the Bible or claim to be a creationist so you guys are up creek if you think a few Youtube videos can bail you out of a debate with me.
As for the pictures I needed since when because a person used a picture of certain site they support that site? If that's the case i may suggest you think twice before you post another Gay picture to insult someone.
Still no one here can prove a world wide flood never happened.
Evolutionists use, primarily, what they call the "Geologic Column" to date the earth uses eras (Jurassic, Mesozoic, etc.). The issue with this imaginary column is that often times these strata layers are connected by a upright tree that was fossilized through them. proof for flood not too long ago
1) Even if you melted all the glacial ice on the planet today, there still would not be enough water to cover every single landmass. You might be able to bring sea levels to the point where you might get the first few miles of coastland, flooding some flat, low-lying areas, but that is not quite the "world-wide flood" you seem to be aiming at.
2) Assuming you magic up enough water to do so, you would kill off every single freshwater fish species in existance, as the salinity of the oceans would mix with and overwhelm the freshwater. The very existence of modern freshwater fish species is proof enough that no global flood has occured.
3) Assuming you magic up enough water, and then magic up some way NOT to kill off every single fresh water species, the immobile species that live in coastal areas, like clams, mussels, and other coastal shelf dwellers that live in very specific conditions would also be similary killed off, as the increased depth suddenly made their environs too dark and cold to support them.
4) Assuming you magic up enough water, magic up some way not to kill off every single fresh water species, magic up some way not to kill off coastal ecosystems, you then have to deal with the fact that such a flood would kill off everysingle land-bound plant species. Salt water is not kind to such plants, nor is it kind to their seeds. Total immersion, even in fresh water would kill off even the heartiest of trees.
5) Assuming you magic up enough water, magic up some way not to kill off every single fresh water species, magic up some way not to kill off coastal ecosystems, and magic up a way not to kill off every single land-bound plant species, you then have to deal with the total absence of evidence of water action in areas like the Sahara desert, where receding water of that magnitude would carry off sand to the bedrock, or simply finding carcasses of killed fish/trees etc in a very distinct, recent layer of geography, or frozen on say, moutaintops.
I guess if you want to assume a whole lot of magic, including the magical erasement of all the physical traces that would be left over by such an event, then you could say no one has proved it has never happened.
Is that what you are trying to say? We have no evidence of magic on a global scale?
Where is the evidence of the magic that replaced all the species that would have been killed off?
When it comes to freak occurrences like a global flood, the burden of proof rests on the ones claiming it happened.
No one can prove that the world wasn't ruled by a flying spaghetti monster 5,000 years ago.
The kind of event you are talking about would not leave bones buried at a few hundred feet above sea level.
It would leave bones in moutain valleys, and not buried, as snow would cover them almost immediately.
Do you have proof of this?
The ancient peoples with stories about flooding had no global maps, or instant communication with people more than a mile or two away. Most didn't move from the place they were born.
A large regional flood event to them would be their entire world, even if 50 miles away it was perfectly dry.
Do you have evidence that these people could travel that quickly or knew what was going on 100 miles away? 1000? 10000?
This poor stone age fellow was revealed when a snow melt uncovered him partially.
One would assume whales, or other large sea creatures would be similarly found.
Do you have any examples of this mouse?
You have no idea how specious that argument is, do you?
Is that the guy they found in the Alps? Did you see last week's episode of Nova about it? Really cool stuff how they piece together the story of him being murdered. Blew my mind that they found him with a copper axe.
This poor stone age fellow was revealed when a snow melt uncovered him partially.
One would assume whales, or other large sea creatures would be similarly found.
Do you have any examples of this mouse?
Do you ever actually give your own opinions about anything, or do you just spam links?
It is indeed a picture of the iceman in the special. That is how I knew about it. What a way to get murdered, ouch.
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