Uh oh, there may be several flies in the ointment...

[Yonivore]

I think Commander Killian's widow is gonna rip 'em all a new asshole on Koppel tonight.

[Yonivore]

Of course, you all realize the Guard issue is dead now. After widow Killian rakes Dan Ratherbiased over the coals, chews him up, and spits him out on Koppel tonight, the other Liberal Networks will probably be skiddish about putting out any more amateurish claims of Bush's misdeeds in the Guard.

Yeah, I know, McAuliffe said he'd be talking about this until election day...but, that was before the Barnes' testimony and the fake do ents were discovered this afternoon and evening.

They'll have to bank on Kitty Kelly now...and, well, she doesn't have much of a track record either.

Watch for President Bush's numbers to go up over the next couple of days due to the unwarranted and bogus attack that will be perceived by all, but the looney left, to be a product of McAuliffe, Carville, Begala, et. al.

[Tommy Duncan]

It will be interesting to see how much the other "mainstream" media outlets dump on CBS.

[Yonivore]

And then start shedding the "Bash Bush" agenda...I think this has sealed the deal for the November 2 election.

I love that, "Kenneth, what is the frequency?" I had almost forgotten.

[Tommy Duncan]

Caught in the...



...act?

[DeSPURado]

Wait Dan and I have proven that it doesn't have to be a fake and yet you're still disregarding it as one? I want to hear the Lt Col who allegedly signed this clear this up.

And why the would Bush release a forgery?

[Spurminator]

He died 20 years ago.

His widow and son both doubt its authenticity.

[Tommy Duncan]

Now isn't that convenient?






Even if true it proves Bush missed a visit with a doc. OMFG! Wait til everyone at ireallyhategeorgewbush.com hears this!

[Spurminator]

A very simple solution to all of this would be to find other do ents issued to other lieutenants by the same person and see if the format is consistent.

[Yonivore]

"Wait Dan and I have proven that it doesn't have to be a fake..."

I missed the explanation of how an IBM Selectric was able to produce a reduced pitch, superscript font. How'd that go?

Widow and son think the do ents are a fake...the commander was proud to have Bush in his unit and was excited to meet the airman's family when he pinned the wings on him.

But, really, I still want to hear the superscript explanation.

[DeSPURado]

And they obviously were there when he signed millitary do ents?

This is bull . Give me any typewriter with a small font and a large font and I could make this. It would be far harder to duplicate the lack of straight lines, the mis-spacing of letters on a computer. If it was forged, it was forged on a typewriter. The forensic people are dead wrong to think that this would have been more easily forged on a computer (impossible with just MS word), that makes me question their intelligence in general.

The reason the blacked out name shows through is that it was scanned to be put online. The backlighting often allows the original words to be seen through permanent ink.

[DeSPURado]

Yonivore if the typewriter can produce different fonts then you just use the smaller font and adjust the page with the feed wheel to create a superscript or a subscript.

[Spurminator]

And the scanning also likely explains the lack of straight lines.

[Spurminator]

Why would they bother to create a superscript in the body of the text when they didn't do so in the heading or the "MEMORANDUM" line?

[Tommy Duncan]

This is bull . Give me any typewriter with a small font and a large font and I could make this. It would be far harder to duplicate the lack of straight lines, the mis-spacing of letters on a computer. If it was forged, it was forged on a typewriter. The forensic people are dead wrong to think that this would have been more easily forged on a computer, that makes me question their intelligence in general.

[DeSPURado]

Its a letter head? And on a typewriter you often think of doing something a little differently half through a letter, adjust accordingly and can't go back to redo the stuff you already did. Thats more evidence that this isn't a computer forgery. On a computer you could edit it all.

[Spurminator]

Its a letter head?

Possibly, but that still doesn't explain the "MEMO" line, which has "1st" printed with no superscript.

Anything's possible. I'm certainly no typography expert, but what I know right now is that the Lt. Commander's family does not believe he typed the do ents, several typography experts believe them to be false, a former Gore and Clinton Campaign Strategist is already suggesting (on NightLine) that these may have been forged by the Bush Campaign as some sort of reverse trickery, and that you and Dan believe they could be authentic.

No offense, but you'll forgive me if I'm skeptical right now.

This is the risk of spending so much time reporting on trivial issues. It's high risk, low reward. Sure, it makes for good sensationalism, but it doesn't have any real significance, and there's doubt in every corner.

[SpursWoman]

a former Gore and Clinton Campaign Strategist is already suggesting (on NightLine) that these may have been forged by the Bush Campaign as some sort of reverse trickery

[Yonivore]

Truly, Truly DeSPURate:

"This is bull . Give me any typewriter with a small font and a large font and I could make this."

Doesn't this raise the question of why he would stop, exchange the "golf" ball for a smaller font, realign the new ball with the old, just to get a superscript "th" when, he didn't bother to do the same in the Header?

Are you old enough to remember the IBM Selectrics? Which were the only typewriters, in existence at the time, capable of the scalable fonts that were described.

While they were in existence, they weren't widely used.

Plus, the widow says he didn't type.

[Tommy Duncan]

It's quite clear what is going on. Here we have a short week after the Labor Day weekend and the GOP convention prior to that which by any stretch of even a crack induced liberal Democrat imagination was a success. This upcoming weekend will see the 3rd anniversary of 9/11. Someone needed to step into the breach and take a shot at Bush to knock him off message. Hence the coordinated reporting on Bush's national guard service between CBS, the NY Times and the Times' sister publication the Boston Globe (all noted right wing media outlets).

Now suddenly the font on an early 1970s IBM typewriter is making Kerry supporters sure that Bush missed a visit with a national guard doc. Meanwhile most normal Americans collectively don't give a ****.

Could Kerry finish worse than the Duk? If things don't change that seems Rather possible.

[Yonivore]

If it weren't for D.C., he might actually get 0 EV's.

[DeSPURado]

On the last column of bullet points in the ad posted by Dan:

*Escapment Lever instantly adjusts spacing for various point sizes.
*Leading dial allows flexibility in vertical spacing...type can be set solid or leaded in increments from 5 to 20 points.

Leads me to believe the typewriter's single ball surface had multiple font sizes at the touch of a button or multiple balls with multiple font sizes on board. Just a guess. Also at the bottom of the left column theres some smaller print that says something like :

All type, 12pt. or less, was set on the IBM "selectric" Composer.

No idea what that really means.

[Tommy Duncan]

So have eyewitnesses placed the IBM Selectawhatever on the grassy knoll?

[Yonivore]

Well, it didn't. I learned to type on a Selectric II in 1976. If you wanted a different font or a different size; you stopped changed the ball and worked like the ens to line up the print again.

That still doesn't answer the question of why would he ing bother when he didn't bother elsewhere in the do ent?

But, I'm with TD, if we're reduced to discussing fonts and pitch, the Demoncrats have really stooped to desperate levels.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It would be far harder to duplicate the lack of straight lines, the mis-spacing of letters on a computer.

Gimme a break. Give me a couple of hours on Photoshop and I could come up with the same thing.