Reply With QuoteHere we go:
Drudge is running this teaser at the top of his page:
"'60 Minutes' Do ents on Bush Might Be Fake /// 32-year-old do ents produced Wednesday by CBSNEWS 60 MINS on Bush's guard service may have been forged using a current word processing program // typed using a proportional font, not common at that time, and they used a superscript font feature found in today's Microsoft Word program, Internet reports claim... Developing..."
Here we go:
But it's CBS.
I know, that's "shocking!"
Republicant's claim that the do ents are forgeries because they're set in a proportional font, which "did not exist" when Bush was in the National Guard.
That's bull .
There are two minor problems with this theory.
One, proportional fonts have been around for five hundred years. Bill Gates did NOT invent the proportional font. It's monospace type that's a recent invention.
And two, the highest-end IBM typewriter was the IBM Selectric Composer--and this general obviously had one. This is what IBM says about this machine:
The IBM SELECTRIC® Composer's escapement system employs rotating elements, rather than the conventional rack system, to provide the required displacement. This permits the basic unit of escapement to be varied, and allows the number of units per escapement cycle to vary in proportion to character width. In this paper the authors discuss the machine requirements that led to this approach and describe the elements that have evolved. The analysis used to evaluate the design (and modify it to some extent) is also recorded, in a separate section.
Translation: this typewriter was unique in that it could produce proportional text. A number of books were set on this device. The first six editions of "How To Keep Your Volkswagen Alive" were set on the Composer. It was very expensive, but if you were a real VIP, like a general, you had one because it made do ents that couldn't be produced any other way.
According to this, it came out in 1966.
Holy , danny is a typewriter historian.
i got an idea.....who give a what bush did in the national guard?
who gives a what kerry did in vietnam?
it just doesn't matter.....
Again, even if the do ents are credible they prove that Bush missed a physical. BFD. Otherwise he met his service requirements (or exceeded them) and received an honorable discharge.
There's a reason why this story had no impact the first time it came around. People already assume that he's led a life of privilege due to his family.
There's a reason why the Demos love to bring it up and it's the same reason why the GOP loved to bring up all the about Clinton.
Frankly, I hope the media, DNC, and the Kerry campaign hammer away at Bush on this for the next 2 months.
Somewhere the junior senator from New York must be smiling.
And the superscript, Nbadan?
Can't wait to hear this!
Drudge. It's gotta be true. Just like the mistress.
Wow, is that the only example of Drudge's mistakes you can pull out of your bag Ruby?
Besides, the DrudgeReport linked to a news article...he, himself, isn't making the claim.
The mistress...WOW! The New York Times should only hope to have just ONE bad mistake in it's history.
Frankly, too bad Drudge wasn't wrong about that other mistress.
Hey Ruby! Have you even looked at the do ent (as shown on CBS) to which they are referring?
I mean, I'm really curious how that commander got an extremely rare IBM Selectric to type a superscript font.
Here's you a link to a .pdf of the memo:
While you're at it, take the time to read the article to which Drudge linked us.
This is merely a link to a news source...I don't even think Drudge characterized the story one way or the other, just said the do ent "may" be fake.
Having used a type writer three times in my life I already know this. Subscript and superscript are redundant functions on a typewriter. They are the exact same font just different page allignment.And the superscript, Nbadan?
Can't wait to hear this!
Superscript= Subscript after feeding the page up a nudge.
Despurado,
Did you even look at the memo? The superscript "th" is not the same font size as the rest of the text.
Damn, if the "neocons" came up with something like this about Kerry, Dan and his clown of idiots would be on here screaming bloody murder that it's obviously a fake and yet another right wing conspiracy.
But it's about Bush, so it must be true.
Did you read Dan's article. Font size was adjustable on this machine. If you can adjust font size you can create subscript and superscript. The proof that this came from a typewriter is so obvious its not even funny. Look at the way the the "a" in examination (bottom line) is off set from the rest of the word. No computer would ever do that. In fact it would be a and would require a little more than MS word to off set certain letters. And its impossible to get letters to type just a bit over lapping the way some of the letters are doing.
Even if it was possible to create a superscript effect by adjusting font size and level, who the would do that when they can simply type "111th" like they did in the heading?
Also, the letters being offset is inconclusive, because this is clearly a scan or fax, and the entire do ent is at a slant.
And more importantly, WHO ING CARES ABOUT THIS ??
Does anyone else's PDF of the do ent totally show the marked out address through the ink, or is it just me?
(Waits for goons to knock on door)
Bush's National Guard record is irrelevant to the fact he is a piss poor president.
AP is reporting the docs are fakes, among other media outlets.
I'd also like to echo Spurm's sentiment.
Also: "I'm a Kerry supporter myself, but . . . I'm 99% sure that these do ents were not produced in the early 1970s."www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/9623049.htm
Independent do ent examiner Sandra Ramsey Lines said the memos looked like they had been produced on a computer using Microsoft Word software, which wasn't available when the do ents were supposedly written in 1972 and 1973.
Lines, a do ent expert and fellow of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences, pointed to a superscript - a smaller, raised "th" in "111th Fighter Interceptor Squadron" - as evidence indicating forgery.
Microsoft Word automatically inserts superscripts in the same style as the two on the memos obtained by CBS, she said.
"I'm virtually certain these were computer-generated," Lines said after reviewing copies of the do ents at her office in Paradise Valley, Ariz. She produced a nearly identical do ent using her computer's Microsoft Word software.
The White House distributed the four memos after obtaining them from CBS News. The White House did not question their accuracy.
Finally, it has been revealed for the 3rd time by the national media that Bush most likely got into the National Guard because his father was a rich politician. Shocking.
If you break out the ointment.....I'm out of there!!!
So does Dan Rather have any credibility left as a "journalist"?
What did Dan know and when did he know it?
8o
:shock
If you break out the ointment.....I'm out of there!!!
Depends on what, exactly, the ointment is for. :vomit
In his own words, "I've got the credibility of a South Austin crack who hasn't had a hit in 3 days."
Things that make you go hmmm
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