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    Texas, Our Texas!
    *flashes back to grade school... tears up*

    Texas, our Texas,
    All hail the mighty state
    Texas, our Texas,
    So wonderful, so great!
    Boldest and grandest
    Withstanding every test...

    *hums rest because I can't remember lyrics*

    And people call us boastful!

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    I was just about to say the same thing. From a practical standpoint FS Keys "Star Spangled Banner" was an awful choice by Congress to be the national anthem...it spans four octaves and is a real stretch for even professionally trained vocalists...and is routinely butchered by so called "professional" entertainers...
    Oh, it is not four octaves. There isn't a singer on the planet who can span 4 octaves. Three octaves is considered a kick-ass range...two and a half is good even for professionals.

    The "Star Spangled Banner" is an octave and a half. Still very difficult.

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    *flashes back to grade school... tears up*

    Texas, our Texas,
    All hail the mighty state
    Texas, our Texas,
    So wonderful, so great!
    Boldest and grandest
    Withstanding every test...

    *hums rest because I can't remember lyrics*

    And people call us boastful!
    Oh, empire wide and glorious,
    You stand supremely blessed!

    God Bless You, Texas!
    And keep you brave and strong.
    That you may grow in power & worth,
    Throughout the ages long.

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    Oh, it is not four octaves. There isn't a singer on the planet who can span 4 octaves. Three octaves is considered a kick-ass range...two and a half is good even for professionals.

    The "Star Spangled Banner" is an octave and a half. Still very difficult.
    I realize you are probably more of an expert on it than I am but it's got to be more than an octave and a half from "say" to "free"...

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    Ya'll Ready For This?? Let's get up to speed people. The rest of America stopped playing that gay song a long time ago, let alone to announce it's players. SBC needs a revamp. It's a snore compared to Detroit. The announcer sounds like someone's Algebra teacher.
    Kidd Rocks performance was cool. Get over it..

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    EXACTLY!

    but the story behind it is pretty sweet , and thats why i think they chose it.
    Isn't it a traditional drinking song?

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    Oh, it is not four octaves. There isn't a singer on the planet who can span 4 octaves.
    Julie Andrews pre-surgery and Mariah Carey.

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    Ya'll Ready For This?? Let's get up to speed people. The rest of America stopped playing that gay song a long time ago, let alone to announce it's players. SBC needs a revamp. It's a snore compared to Detroit. The announcer sounds like someone's Algebra teacher.
    I don't get the whole "our announcer is better than your announcer" and "your announcer is a stuttering fool" thing. Who cares? Does it really matter? I say this to both sides.

    I did think Kid Rock did a nice job though.

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    I realize you are probably more of an expert on it than I am but it's got to be more than an octave and a half from "say" to "free"...
    Plink it out on a keyboard, CC...

    An octave and a half is a long range. It doesn't sound like much, but it's harder than it sounds.

    "Say" to "see" is an octave. "Rockets" is a third above "see", and "red glare" is another third.

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    Julie Andrews pre-surgery and Mariah Carey.
    You sure they can do four? I don't mean four notes each an octave apart, I mean four full octaves. (Four notes each an octave apart is only three octaves)

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    Julie Andrews pre-surgery and Mariah Carey.
    I think Kate Bush also

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    Isn't it a traditional drinking song?
    Yeah...it was an English drinking song from the 1780's..."To Anacreon in Heaven"

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    Isn't it a traditional drinking song?

    no.
    the story is he had been captured adn was stcuk inside the english fort all night. the next mornign he wrote the song about how he still held out hope casuie above all the bombs and bullets going off he could still see the flagg flying over tyhe battel field.

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    no.
    the story is he had been captured adn was stcuk inside the english fort all night. the next mornign he wrote the song about how he still held out hope casuie above all the bombs and bullets going off he could still see the flagg flying over tyhe battel field.
    actually it is a traditional drinking song. Francis Scott Key wrote a poem en led "The Star Spangled Banner", which is the story you related. The words were applied to the older tune much later.

    That's not an uncommon occurence...

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    no.
    the story is he had been captured adn was stcuk inside the english fort all night. the next mornign he wrote the song about how he still held out hope casuie above all the bombs and bullets going off he could still see the flagg flying over tyhe battel field.
    No, that's the lyrics - FSK didn't write the melody for his poem, which is what you're talking about - long after the fact they used his poem and put it to a traditional melody and so the music is actually a traditional drinking song. Which also explains the range.

    I think Kate Bush also
    Man, how did I forget her as well?

    You sure they can do four? I don't mean four notes each an octave apart, I mean four full octaves. (Four notes each an octave apart is only three octaves)
    I know what an octave is, I've got nine years of piano lessons under my belt. And Julie Andrews and Mariah Carey are both accredited as having 5 octave ranges.

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    No, he was not in the fort; he was still on his ship under British guard (I learned in elementary school that he wrote the words on a ship, didn't you?)

    Francis Scott Key (1779 - 1843)

    "Then, in that hour of deliverance, my heart spoke. Does not such a country, and such defenders of their country, deserve a song?..."

    Francis Scott Key, son of an established Maryland family, was born on August 1, 1779, in western Maryland (Frederick, MD) on the family estate of "Terra Rubra." He attended grammar school and later graduated from St. Johns College in Annapolis at age 17.

    By 1805, Key had established a law practice in Georgetown, Maryland, and, by 1814, had appeared many times before the U.S. Supreme Court. The site of his house on M Street is now a memorial park.

    Key was a religious man and was involved in the Episcopal church. Although opposed to the war, he served for a brief period in the Georgetown Light Field Artillery (1813-14). During the Battle of Bladensburg, Key assigned field positions to American troops - a duty he had no expertise in!

    In August 1814, Key's friend Dr. William Beanes was taken prisoner by the British army soon after its departure from Washington. Key left for Baltimore to obtain the services of Colonel John Skinner, the government's prisoner of war exchange agent. Together they sailed down the bay on a truce ship and met the British fleet. Key successfully negotiated the doctor's release, but was detained with Skinner and Beanes by the British until after the attack on Baltimore.

    Key's vessel (name unknown) was 8 miles below the fort during the bombardment, under the watchful care of a British warship. It was from this site that he witnessed the British attack on Fort McHenry, after which he was inspired to write the words to "The Star-Spangled Banner."

    After the war, Key served as a United States District Attorney and continued his association with the Episcopal church, writing several hymns. On January 11, 1843, he died of pleurisy while visiting his sister in Baltimore. Today he rests in Mount Olivet Cemetery in Frederick, Maryland. The flag he so honored flies day and night here, and at Fort McHenry, as a reminder of those events in September 1814 that gave birth to our anthem and pride in our nation. (Note: There are also local monuments to Key at Fort McHenry, on Eutaw Place in Baltimore, and at the Presidio in San Francisco, California.)

    Key was the brother-in-law of Roger Brooke Taney who served as Chief Justice and administered the oath of office to Lincoln in 1861.

    http://www.bcpl.net/~etowner/anthem.html

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    Yeah...it was an English drinking song from the 1780's..."To Anacreon in Heaven"
    If it wasn't enough to induce drinking in Britain in 1780, it was after they lost the war of 1812 & got their asses handed to them @ New Orleans.

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    No, I know what an octave is, I've got nine years of piano lessons under my belt. And Julie Andrews and Mariah Carey are both accredited as having 5 octave ranges.

    No offense was intended, Jekka...I've got 8 myself.

    Here's an interesting discussion concerning vocal ranges. It doesn't completely answer the question, but it does provide some interesting points.

    (Oh...and you know what an octave is...but that doesn't mean that someone else does...as the below link points out. )

    http://www.answerbag.com/q_view.php/720

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    I just wish National Anthems were sung as simple as possible. I hate it when they try and jazz or slow our anthem here in oz.

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    I just wish National Anthems were sung as simple as possible. I hate it when they try and jazz or slow our anthem here in oz.
    I hear ya, buddy. The Aggie Band plays it millitary-style at A&M events and it takes like 30 seconds.

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    I don't get the whole "our announcer is better than your announcer" and "your announcer is a stuttering fool" thing. Who cares? Does it really matter? I say this to both sides.

    I did think Kid Rock did a nice job though.
    It does to me. I go to about 20-25 games a year and if I had to sit through that Spurs snoozefest, I would lose it. Its prob worse in the regular season is it not? Pre-game introductions is part of the show and part of the entertainment here. People wanna get there on time to see Mason and everybody else do their thing.

    While its not basketball, its certainly an added bonus to the game. Even watching that stuff at home gets me pumped up.

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    I just wish National Anthems were sung as simple as possible. I hate it when they try and jazz or slow our anthem here in oz.

    The worst was the hip-hop violinist. Terrible.

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    I Already Feel Scared The Spurs Shouldve Had Sombody Better To Sing I Just Dont Feel The Energy Jumpin From The Screen Like It Should Be!

    Have some damn respect.

    The energy you get from the player's introductions, not from the national anthem.
    And if you don't get energized from that you ain't a true Spurs fan.

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    It does to me. I go to about 20-25 games a year and if I had to sit through that Spurs snoozefest, I would lose it. Its prob worse in the regular season is it not? Pre-game introductions is part of the show and part of the entertainment here. People wanna get there on time to see Mason and everybody else do their thing.

    While its not basketball, its certainly an added bonus to the game. Even watching that stuff at home gets me pumped up.
    No its pretty much the same. The guy is a celeb in Detroit and if they like him and that's what you want, that's cool. For me, I am just all about the game and the game itself gets me pumped up. But that is a personal thing I guess. A lot of Spurs fans don't like Stan Kelly either.

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