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Wait... I thought officials never lied.
Oh, now it's totally going to happen.There has been no official talk at all about adding teams to the Big-12. Talk about a premature ejaculation thread...
Wait... I thought officials never lied.
Then you're stupid. No lie.Wait... I thought officials never lied.
According to Orangebloods' Chip Brown, the latest school to join the conference re-alignment rumor mill is Georgia Tech, who has reached out to the Big 12 in recent weeks:
One of my best sources in the Big 12 just indicated that Georgia Tech has also put out informal feelers to the Big 12 about the Big 12's potential expansion plans, and that source said Georgia Tech would be very appealing as a potential expansion target because of its strong academics.
This is how these things go. With all the legalities involved the AD's stay away and let lower tier employees due all the work until the lawyers say it is ok to come out of hiding. Not saying it going to happen or that the big will expand, but to think schools like GT,FSU,Miami,etc have not contacted the big 12 is pretty stupid..
You're the one that over values officials statements. Not me.
lol Chip Brown
Does this mean you think they lie all the time?
Do you think they tell the truth all the time?
Of course not.
Do you think an official is lying about this situation right now?
Why would an official from school X come out and say they have talked to Conference A?
All that does is put that official in a corner and in the spotlight, when feelers can be used to gauge interest with out putting a school official in a corner and can simply deny the talks ever occurred until a final decision is made.
I have to remind myself I'm talking to you, Blake. You were in all likelihood one of the idiots that thought when the SEC said they were comfortable at 12 teams they actually meant it. , you might have even started the thread to make fun of "aggy".
What you do not know will not hurt you...In this case where lawsuits are prevalent and where talking about 10's of millions of $, it is best for the Big 12 to stay clear of any official talk of expansion. So to answer your question, No I do not believe any direct contact has been made by any AD's from the big 12 to the ACC Ad's. Has there been contact by non-employed school officals or 3rd parties, yes I believe there has been between the conferences.
Why would an official say anything at all?
Someone in this thread implied I think officials never lie.
No surprise that someone is a butthurt aggy.
Answering a question with a question.
Splendid.
You answered your own hypothetical question right after you asked it and I didn't disagree.
answer mine.
Sure. An official would deny any expansion rumors until a final decision was made, then would detail what talks (if any) occurred.
Like Nebraska, when they denied talks with the Big 10 until a decision was made. You then heard about the private plane meetings with Osbourne and Delany.
A school official would also not make the initial contact to a particular conference about expansion/invitation. They would use third parties, similar to how head coaches are lured away from current positions. Almost like a head hunter agency I guess would be the best way to describe it.
Let me make it clearer:
Why would an official come out and say that talks have not happened if they really have.
Why say anything at all?
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Wow, this thread has gone to ...either you understand by now or you dont?
I understand early on that lot of bull is being flung at the wall here.
You are eating a lot of it up before it has a chance to stick.
legal reasons.
Waiting on an "official decision"
That is not my choice, but the common answer by these school officials is to deny the talks. Just par for the course I guess.
Let me ask you this. When Nebraska officially joined the Big Ten with the announcement in June of 2010, when you think the decision was made internally at Nebraska to join the Big Ten? The day before, a week, a month, etc...
lying for legal reasons makes no sense.
The Big 10 made a formal announcement in late 2009 they wanted to expand.That is not my choice, but the common answer by these school officials is to deny the talks. Just par for the course I guess.
Let me ask you this. When Nebraska officially joined the Big Ten with the announcement in June of 2010, when you think the decision was made internally at Nebraska to join the Big Ten? The day before, a week, a month, etc...
This was Osborne in early 2010:
since Nebraska joined a few months later, Id say the timing sounds right.With two of their conference brethren firmly attached to the Big Ten expansion rumor mill, Nebraska has made it known that they’d be willing to listen to expansion overtures.
Speaking to the Lincoln Journal Star, athletic director Tom Osborne said he had yet to hear from the conference but made it clear that the call would be answered if anyone wanted to pick up the phone and inquire about his school’s level of interest.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports...rget-about-us/
Did any other Nebraska officials deny talks with the Big10?
Last edited by Blake; 05-23-2012 at 08:23 PM.
True. But if people didn't lie for legal reasons there would be no such thing as perjury. Now perjury doesn't apply in these scenarios. I just responded to your questions as to why I thought an official would come out and say that talks have not happened if they really have. They were just guesses, not absolutes.
True in December of 2009.
Back in Lincoln, though, the announcement caused hardly a stir.
“I don't see any indication Nebraska is looking to go to another conference at this point,'' Osborne said in a radio interview that day.
Which was true at the time.
Regent chairman Bob Phares said in June of 2010 that, “No. 1, there’s been no vote by the board at all,” Phares said. “No. 2, as I understand it, there are no invitations that are extended. You decide if you wish to make an application and then they react to your application."
“And I heard that there were reports that Tom Osborne had advised all of his staff that it was a done deal. You can talk to Tom and see what his comment is. I would be immensely surprised if that was the case, because as I said, there’s been no vote by the board and no formal decision.”
You can read into to their implications but there is no direct confirmation.
Also denied on both accounts in May of 2010:
Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that he'd heard nothing from Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany regarding Missouri and Nebraska. Delany has insisted he would contact any conference commissioner affected by expansion before making official offers.
Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman responded, "None whatsoever," when asked by the Lincoln Journal-Star if there was any vaildity to the Kansas City report.
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