So what do you think about Castros proposal to raise the sales tax for pre-K educatio

[CosmicCowboy]

It's education. What branch of government is it fit for? if it needs to be done then what level of government?

How about the one that already deals with education? That already has the bureaucracy in place and has the funding sources in place? Are you aware that many school districts already offer PreK4? The fact that some parents are too ing selfish and lazy to take advantage of it is not going to be solved by the city jumping into the education business.

If the city ins utes this and uses that 1/8 cent sales tax buffer we have now to fund it this thing will NEVER go away...and the city will be at 8.25% and legally capped out...they can't legally raise the sales tax any higher.

The role of city government is to plan, build, and maintain infrastructure and keep the public safe with police and fire protection. Leave education to the ing school districts.

[coyotes_geek]

If the city ins utes this and uses that 1/8 cent sales tax buffer we have now to fund it this thing will NEVER go away...and the city will be at 8.25% and legally capped out...they can't legally raise the sales tax any higher.

This should be the most compelling arguement against the idea.

[boutons_deux]

S.A. schools fail federal standards

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/edu...ds-3773068.php

of course, Repugs say we must close all public schools, fire all unionized teachers because some schools fail (ignoring that many public schools are acceptable or wonderfully successful, with unionized teachers WTF?)

[coyotes_geek]

smh

lol boutons

[vy65]

S.A. schools fail federal standards

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/edu...ds-3773068.php

of course, Repugs say we must close all public schools, fire all unionized teachers because some schools fail (ignoring that many public schools are acceptable or wonderfully successful, with unionized teachers WTF?)

wtf does that have to do with pre-k, much less a city taxe for pre-k
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[TeyshaBlue]

wtf does that have to do with pre-k, much less a city taxe for pre-k
ed
un able
doesn't drink the tap water
butns

Nothing. bot is as bot does.

[CosmicCowboy]

S.A. schools fail federal standards

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/edu...ds-3773068.php

of course, Repugs say we must close all public schools, fire all unionized teachers because some schools fail (ignoring that many public schools are acceptable or wonderfully successful, with unionized teachers WTF?)

Did you actually read the article Boutons? This forum couldn't pass. They only allow 13% idiots this year and you would blow it for us.

[Drachen]

How about the one that already deals with education? That already has the bureaucracy in place and has the funding sources in place? Are you aware that many school districts already offer PreK4? The fact that some parents are too ing selfish and lazy to take advantage of it is not going to be solved by the city jumping into the education business.

If the city ins utes this and uses that 1/8 cent sales tax buffer we have now to fund it this thing will NEVER go away...and the city will be at 8.25% and legally capped out...they can't legally raise the sales tax any higher.

The role of city government is to plan, build, and maintain infrastructure and keep the public safe with police and fire protection. Leave education to the ing school districts.

I didn't know about the emboldened part. This is pretty bad. Though one could argue that the only reason to save that 1/8 of a cent is for potential investment and the "conservative estimate of return" of 3 dollars for every 1 dollar invested seems to be a pretty good investment. Also, this money from the sales tax is mainly to act as equity that the city will leverage to get more state funds. I have said it before that I am pretty far against this plan, but I want to get the arguments in a row.

Also, leaving it up to the districts creates an uneven level of prek education, how do we stop that? (I know this opens up a whole 'nother can of worms regarding school funding, but it is valid).

[ElNono]

But Castro has the rings, es!

[TeyshaBlue]

[RandomGuy]

I think Pre-K education has been proven to have a significant positive impact on students.

I also think this should be something the school districts fund (through property taxes), not the city.

I would argue that Pre-K is too important to be kept "outside" of the public education system (you have to pay extra to send your kid to Pre-K).

School disctricts are capped by the Texas cons ution at a certain level that almost all are already at. To get any further increases require highly unpopular ballot initiatives that the vociferous minority tea party dolts will vote down, because they are the people who show up to vote in such things, sadly. (note: I had this explained to me by the budget director of his kids' school district, yes, I am the type who talks to those people)

The legislature strongly controlled by the Republican party and its crackpot Governors, and unwilling to fund education, has cut deeply into any funding from the state.

It won't happen at that level.

[RandomGuy]

The fact that some parents are too ing selfish and lazy to take advantage

... means we should condemn their kids because of the parent's actions?

GF*Y*


This is the rot at the heart of the Republican party.

[TeyshaBlue]

School disctricts are capped by the Texas cons ution at a certain level that almost all are already at. To get any further increases require highly unpopular ballot initiatives that the vociferous minority tea party dolts will vote down, because they are the people who show up to vote in such things, sadly. (note: I had this explained to me by the budget director of his kids' school district, yes, I am the type who talks to those people)

The legislature strongly controlled by the Republican party and its crackpot Governors, and unwilling to fund education, has cut deeply into any funding from the state.

It won't happen at that level.

There's alot of giveup in this post. Are you on the ed and un able bandwagon now?

[TeyshaBlue]

There's a funding lawsuit bout every 6 years. There's a better than zero chance this could be addressed by the legislature.

[ploto]

Not that I fully agree with the pre-K program and the city being involved in it, but considering people were happy to pay the same tax so millionaires could get a publicly paid-for AlamoDome, I am not too upset about it.

[TeyshaBlue]

Not that I fully agree with the pre-K program and the city being involved in it, but considering people were happy to pay the same tax so millionaires could get a publicly paid-for AlamoDome, I am not too upset about it.

I can see the point you're making. However, the bond was repaid. It was not an ongoing, open-ended expense. Kinda hard to compare on that level.

[CosmicCowboy]

School disctricts are capped by the Texas cons ution at a certain level that almost all are already at. To get any further increases require highly unpopular ballot initiatives that the vociferous minority tea party dolts will vote down, because they are the people who show up to vote in such things, sadly. (note: I had this explained to me by the budget director of his kids' school district, yes, I am the type who talks to those people)

The legislature strongly controlled by the Republican party and its crackpot Governors, and unwilling to fund education, has cut deeply into any funding from the state.

It won't happen at that level.

When was the last time "minority tea party dolts" voted down a school bond issue in San Antonio?

You are just SO full of .

[RandomGuy]

When was the last time "minority tea party dolts" voted down a school bond issue in San Antonio?

You are just SO full of .

I didn't say they did.

If a property tax increase was put on the ballot, it doesn't take a Wild Cobra to ferret out the likely reaction to it.

All in all, I would generally prefer the school system do it as well.

I just know why it won't happen.

[CosmicCowboy]

NEISD ANNOUNCES OPEN ENROLLMENT FOR PRE-KINDERGARTEN
North East ISD will hold pre-kindergarten registration Aug. 4-13 at each elementary school. Parents may call their neighborhood elementary school for registration times. Additionally, the City of San Antonio and Family Service Association will operate 9 Head Start programs (below) within North East ISD.

“We will make classes for all students who are qualified, and there will be no waiting list,” said Linda Hamilton, Early Childhood Coordinator. “With Head Start and our pre-k programs, we will be able to offer multiple opportunities to serve families.”

NEISD’s half day pre-kindergarten program is available for children who meet the following criteria for enrollment:
• Child will be 4 years of age on or before September 1 of 2010; and
• Child is a resident of NEISD; and
• Child is current with required immunization on or before the first day of school; and
• Child meets at least one of the following requirements:

Child is unable to speak and comprehend the English Language (Home Language Survey must be completed, child must be tested for English acquisition, child must qualify for the program); or
Child is homeless, as defined by [42 USC 11302]; or
Child is educationally disadvantaged (income eligible, food stamp eligible, foster child); or Reduced Lunch Program, food stamp (SNAP Food Benefits) eligible, TANF eligible); or
Child meets the criteria for parent serving on active duty in the armed forces, including a child of a member who was hurt or killed on active duty; or
Child is or has ever been in the conservatorship of the Department of Family and Protective Services following an adversary hearing. (in foster care, adopted after conservatorship, returned to parent after conservatorship).
When registering, parents are required to bring the following for all eligible students: updated immunization record, certified copy of birth certificate, social security card, proof of residency, and valid driver’s license of parent/guardian.

To qualify as educationally disadvantaged, parents must provide one of the following: a foster child written do ent, food stamp (SNAP) or TANF approval letter with case number, or proof of income eligibility dated no earlier than June 24.

To qualify as active duty in the armed forces, parents must provide one of the following: Department of Defense (DoD) photo ID, or copies of “Statement of Service” letter, Purple Heart orders or citation, Line of Duty Determination, “Missing in Action” do entation, Death Certificate on the appropriate DoD form.

Pre-kindergarten registration will continue to be accepted after Aug. 13. For more information on the NEISD pre-kindergarten program, visit http://www.neisd.net/curriculum/CurC...enInternet.htm.

The City of San Antonio and Family Service Association will operate the following Head Start centers within North East ISD:

Crestway 6925 Crestway
Ferrari 107 Rampart
George Gervin 6944 Sunbelt Dr.
Lost Creek 16352 Judson Rd.
Montgomery 6758 Montgomery
Northeast 618 Lanark
Rhapsody 212 Rhapsody
The Oaks 2738 Shingle Oak Dr.
Valley Forge 13134 Independence

For more information on Head Start, visit www.family-service.org .

[RandomGuy]

There's alot of giveup in this post. Are you on the ed and un able bandwagon now?

Nah. I will play the waiting game.

The GOP will continue to on poor people as being lazy and dumb, especially poor brown people, and the poor brown people will get the message loud and clear.

It is a little like watching jihadis fail in places like Iraq and Afghanistan because they indescriminantly kill people.

Both actions tend to turn people against you in the long run.

That is why terrorism in general fails (reference IRA bombings), and that is why the Republican party will decline in power.

QED.

[RandomGuy]

For more information on Head Start, visit www.family-service.org .

Does access to the internet increase or decrease when one looks at family income?

i.e. is it positively or negatively correlated?

[CosmicCowboy]

Nah. I will play the waiting game.

The GOP will continue to on poor people as being lazy and dumb, especially poor brown people, and the poor brown people will get the message loud and clear.

It is a little like watching jihadis fail in places like Iraq and Afghanistan because they indescriminantly kill people.

Both actions tend to turn people against you in the long run.

That is why terrorism will fail, and that is why the Republican party will decline in power.

QED.

How are current pre-k policys ting on poor people? , they are the only ones that get pre-K.

Again, you are totally full of .

[RandomGuy]

There's a funding lawsuit bout every 6 years. There's a better than zero chance this could be addressed by the legislature.

Not by the current lege. I dunno. Lunch is up.

I will dig around on this further, it is interesting.

[CosmicCowboy]

Does access to the internet increase or decrease when one looks at family income?

i.e. is it positively or negatively correlated?

internet access is practically universal.

[Drachen]

Does access to the internet increase or decrease when one looks at family income?

i.e. is it positively or negatively correlated?

so your root problem is now with how the info is disseminated?