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TP has 14 PPG in the finals and 17 PPG in the playoffs. Even Pop praised him for his defense.
Didn't you quit after Game 4 of Seattle.
Credibility.
TP has 14 PPG in the finals and 17 PPG in the playoffs. Even Pop praised him for his defense.
Billups is a bad matchup for Parker. Period.
Ginobili managed to have 3.5 good games in 7, but he wasn't exactly the model of greatness in Detroit.
Parker did fine in rounds 1,2, and 3, and then ran into the best defense in the league.
It happens. He will get better, as he already has.
yup.
Give up on Parker at 23 years old.
Makes sense.
I'd argue that Parker made the second most important play in achieving a le, with his tight defense on Hamilton in the waning seconds of Game 5. That's not to suggest that Tony is on a crash-course with the Hall of Fame; but hyperbolically saying that Parker's role in '05 was akin to Bateer's role in '03 is ridiculous. Parker's role in '05 was about the same as Parker's role in '03. In each playoff run, he was fantastic at points (particularly road wins in the WCF, home wins in the WCSF) and he struggled at points. I don't think he'll ever be a monster on both ends who kills every night, but with Manu and Tim on this roster, he doesn't necessarily have to be -- obviously.
As for Shareef Abdur-Rahim, I'd think SAR and Big Dog are mostly an either-or proposition. They have similar games, so if you keep Big Dog, you don't go after SAR; if you want SAR, you let Big Dog walk. The age difference is pretty much negligible at this point (Big Dog is 32, SAR is 28) given the role that's available, so I'd think the decision comes down to which of those two can best accept a role coming off the bench and provide the Spurs with consistent play.
fantastic post FWD.I'd argue that Parker made the second most important play in achieving a le, with his tight defense on Hamilton in the waning seconds of Game 5. That's not to suggest that Tony is on a crash-course with the Hall of Fame; but hyperbolically saying that Parker's role in '05 was akin to Bateer's role in '03 is ridiculous. Parker's role in '05 was about the same as Parker's role in '03. In each playoff run, he was fantastic at points (particularly road wins in the WCF, home wins in the WCSF) and he struggled at points. I don't think he'll ever be a monster on both ends who kills every night, but with Manu and Tim on this roster, he doesn't necessarily have to be -- obviously
[/QUOTE]As for Shareef Abdur-Rahim, I'd think SAR and Big Dog are mostly an either-or proposition. They have similar games, so if you keep Big Dog, you don't go after SAR; if you want SAR, you let Big Dog walk. The age difference is pretty much negligible at this point (Big Dog is 32, SAR is 28) given the role that's available, so I'd think the decision comes down to which of those two can best accept a role coming off the bench and provide the Spurs with consistent play.[QUOTE]
I agree, looking at it like that, SAR's height and his length, that on top of being a pretty good rebounder, makes me like SAR over big dog.
If SAR is willing to go for a smaller contract, WICH I DOUBT, then I'd bring him in.
The Spurs are not the only contending team in the league that SAR could join, and others probably need him (and are willing to pay him) more than San Antonio.
More than likely true.
But if he wants a ring as badly as he says he does............
SAR would be nice for some quick offense for 20-25 minutes a game, but when the playoffs roll around I'd hate to have anyone taking Horry's minutes so I'm not sure... but it's real hard to even think of turning down a player that good if he's willing to take less to sign here. You can't just run in place with your roster.
well Bum, you could throw him out there at the 3 with Horry and Mohammed in there.
Abdur Rahim can't even spell playoffs.
Waste of time.
Like John Lucas??Abdur Rahim can't even spell playoffs.
Waste of time.
Think maybe Abdur Rahim's teams that hes played on had something to do witht hat??
Grizzlies
Hawks
Blazers?!?!?!!?
LMAO!!!!
Rahim > Radosoft. Spurs couldn't sign Rahim except in a sign and trade that would likely feature Radosoft.
Yeah... neither could McDyess and look what he did for the Pistons.
For over 3 years it's been rumored that SAR wanted to come to the Spurs. I don't know if he really likes the Spurs (and visa versa) or it's just a cool rumor to keep recycling in different ways.
Sparky, I was thinking the same thing.
With Scola coming and with our starting center spot covered, I think trading Rasho for room to sign SAR's, or even GRob would be more than acceptable. It gives us the scoring sf that we have wanted, helps our rebounding, and allows barry/manu to move to the 1 with bowen at the 2 for a taller unit.
During the playoffs we proved barry/manu can be more than acceptable as pg's. Time we embrace the future of our backup situation.
Before Beno's contract runs out we should trade him. Let him develop and possibly get a nicer peace with Rasho included.
I'd be nervous leaving Nazr as our sole center given his injury history, and I haven't heard any good reason why Portland would trade for him -- they're one of those few teams that don't need to find a better starting center right now.
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Memphis is
and I wish the Spurs would talk to Memphis about the possibilities of getting back Shane Battier.
Another SARS rumor? He's always rumored to be wanting to come to SA.
But right now it makes no sense. The only way I do it is if Horry leaves and the Spurs need a power forward with an outside jumper. SARS would get murdered if he tried to play small forward in the Spurs' system.
I'm talking about bringing in SAR in addition to Scola.No! Shareef Abdur-Rahim is not player for the Spurs because we have some very good player on his position. I think that is more important to "bring" Scola.
As for all the "getting paid" arguments, like I said - the only way this is a good idea is if SAR agrees to come in for a small payday, like the other half of the MLE after we sign Scola.
I also find it comical that the two knocks on him are: 1. he doesn't know the playoffs and 2. he can't play D.
The same could be said for many guys that the Spurs brought in during FA that now are sporting a ring.
Spurs can teach him D, and the whole playoff thing is bunk to me. It's been my observation that players who have never played in the playoffs are the hungriest and provide the most fire come playoff time.
As for SAR vs. Big Dog, I think that Big Dog is going to leave for a bigger pay day. But you never know.
Or even Earl Watson. Though, Battier would be a perfect Spur.
Where the does SARS get minutes on this team?
Not only is their no minutes for him, but I doubt the guy is going to take a paycut from nearly $15M/year to $2M/year.
To me, it's less about those things and more about using your resources to take care of needs. A defensive-minded swing man, Scola, and possibly even a backup point guard are things that need to be addressed before the Spurs look to add Shareef.
While I'm also concerned about the Spurs signing a player in his prime who would seemingly require a good amount of minutes and shots to be happy, I'm much more concerned with how the Spurs could acquire him and also do the more important things that need to be done. I also agree that there really aren't minutes available for a player like Shareef, but I'm willing to look beyond that because it's not a certainty that he wouldn't accept a minor role and a small amount of money.
But Scola needs to come before they lose the rights to him. Shareef is probably a good bit better than Scola, but because of the money, minutes, and needs involved, I'd go with Scola. And then you still have other needs to take care of after that.
wow that would be good though...
if phoenix gets thomas, having a guy like sar would come in handy in a lineup with duncan playing center. (you could run more) scola is good, but not good enough to take away mins from horry come playoff time either? i would think scola would be more for the long-term wouldnt he? as maybe a replacement for horry down the line?
so if you trade rasho (in a direct or 3 team deal) to get sar... the lineup would be really good at the 5/4 spot. i think sars would get more mins regular season, and be a very good scoring option in case duncan had to sit some games out. horry would get mins depending on matchups and maybe more towards the mid/late season mark to get ready for the playoffs. it would be a thin 5 though.
nazr/duncan/sar
duncan/sar/horry/scola
if you trade rasho you run the risk of not having a big body to deal with shaq in the finals... but thats a big ticket insurance policy to carry for just that one possibility. thats the only reason i see to keep rasho.
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