No thanks!
Who wuld not love to came in Championship team??![]()
I would came right now
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...=2094534&num=2
Damn, don't want to break the bank for him, but if he'd come for whatever of the MLE the Spurs have left after signing Scola, this is one intriguing FA.sources close to free-agent forward Shareef Abdur-Rahim say Reef would love to come to San Antonio after missing the playoffs in each of his nine seasons.
No thanks!
Who wuld not love to came in Championship team??![]()
I would came right now
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If he'd come play for say 1.5 million or so and is willing to come off the bench, I'm not sure how you could say no.
Kid's got game, and he can play as either a big SF or a small PF.
Someone's gotta follow in Big Dog's footsteps![]()
hes good but I think they will use that money to keep DB
They've got Devin's Early Bird Rights, they don't have to use any of the MLE money for him.
The only stipulation on that is if Spurs management wants to pony up or not.
And, FWIW, I don't think they're going to have to break the bank for Devin - kid loves being on the Spurs, and will (along with Nazr, Horry, and IMO Big Dog) sign for under market value to stay with the Spurs.
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Well I would be the first to admit Im not very good when it comes to salary cap options and figures...![]()
I hear ya. It's all drunken speculation at this point, but I'm riding the euphoria of the championship celebration and a night out in Big D.
The guys looked like one big, happy family tonight, and a group of people that enjoy being around each other.
And I must say, those three trophies looked friggin' sweet laid out on the stage tonight. I want more.
They did look like they seriously loved to be around each other....sign of a great team
That's the whole point. If the dude is talking about coming to SA, you know he's not eyeing a fat pay day.Secondly, Abdur-Rahim makes about as much as the whole entire Bobcats team. The guy has a HUGE contract and cannot see him taking that little.
SA is becoming the place vets come to get their ring after they get paid. I would be all for SAR off the bench.
No! Shareef Abdur-Rahim is not player for the Spurs because we have some very good player on his position. I think that is more important to "bring" Scola.
I did not want to start a new thread because of one question: could somebody explain the "early bird rights" to me? I heard we could use them to re-sign Devin. I think that shareef would be a good SF backup. If he would be satisfied with a small contract, bring him in!
I think you're smoking crack, Aggie. Can you really imagine him coming to San Antonio for the MLE or less and accepting a backup role where he plays 15 minutes a game?
Bowen and Ginobili absolutely will be the starters. Maybe Shareef would like to come to the Spurs in an ideal world, but I think when he takes a look at the money and playing time he'd have to sacrifice in the prime of his career he'll be looking at another team real quick.
I'm also sticking with my statement on Big Dog. Sure, the Spurs gave him a chance when few others would. Sure, he won a ring in SA. But I just think he's going to look at a situation where he can play first and foremost. He's not going to get big minutes off of the bench in SA. He's not going to get very much money. He got a ring out of the deal. Why would he stay? He's still better than the playing time he'd get in San Antonio. It's just not the right situation for a player like that.
EARLY BIRD EXCEPTION -- This is a weaker form of the Larry Bird exception. Players who qualify for this exception are called "Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agents" in the CBA. A player qualifies for this exception after just two seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent. Using this exception, a team may re-sign its own free agent for 175% of his salary the previous season or the average player salary, whichever is greater (see question number 22 for the definition of "average salary"). Early Bird contracts must be for at least two seasons (which limits this exception's usefulness -- it's often better to take a lower salary for one more season and then have the full Bird exception available the next season) and no longer than six seasons. A player can receive 12.5% raises using this exception.
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm
I think, at some point, you've also got to be careful about simply collecting a bunch of really talented players. If you have Big Dog and Shareef sharing forward minutes with Horry and even possibly Scola (although Scola and Shareef probably wouldn't both come) off of the bench, you could have some trouble. You're talking about a player who loves to play and score and shoot and a player who's one of the better players at his position in the prime of his career.
We've learned that surrounding your best players with the right pieces is a far better strategy than just collecting a bunch of talent. And I think you need to clearly look at what Shareef is going to give you and what the team's priorities really are. I believe, for instance, that it's much more important to find an athletic small forward with potential who won't demand a lot of playing time. Bruce is as good as ever, but he's not young by NBA standards. I would much rather find a defensive lock down player at small forward.
The Spurs could possibly do both, but there is only so much money and playing time available. I'm all for taking a really good look at what roles the team needs filled and acquiring players based on that. I'm not convinced that Shareef would fit into the team's plans if you look at it that way. And I'm certainly not convinced that coming off of the bench wouldn't get old for him after about ten games.
He's grumbled about minutes in the past. And I'm not bagging on him, it just doesn't seem like the Spurs have the money, minutes, and shots needed to keep a player like that happy.
Shareef is talented no question. I'd be happy if we sign him but only if he's willing to do a few things 1st.
(1) Accept whatever role Pop will give him. He won't start, but what many people here fail to realize, is that throughout this yr, Pop cut back the playing mins of a few key starters to try & save them for the playoffs, so Shareef would get ample playing time @ SF, PF & even C when we go small ball, which by the way Shareef would allow us to use more & be far more effective.
(2) He buys into our DEF 1st mentality.
(3) Takes far less than what his market value is.
(4) Won't bytch about playing time, but as I stated in in (1) he would get plenty of playing time.
Should be interesting to see. It all comes down to those 4 things I listed, but mainly to whether or not RC & Pop feel he's a fit & want him.
Jerome Kersey for Shareef Abdur Rahim.
Do it!
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Every summer/trade deadline for the last four years has come with a SAR to Spurs rumor. I'm sure he's the one that starts these rumors because he never goes to the playoffs and the Spurs always do.
can SAR defend the 3?
if he does come in we can always play rotation of
duncan
sar/scola
horry/bowen
gino/barry
parker/udrih
no way you keep big dog and get him one of the two
I actually like big dog better
anything think he is starting this rumor to get contenders to go after him
so he can pick the contender team that will give him the playing time and money
Abdur-Rahim will draw big bucks on the market, no way Spurs can afford him. If he signed for peanuts I'd love to have him, but come on...
Next rumor.
No way that Shareef signs for less than the FULL MLE.
And he would be worth it. No doubt.
Reef Abdur-Rahim >> Luis Scola.
Really, which player would NOT want to play in San Antonio if their primary goal is winning championships and being respected to the bone by teammates, mgt. and fans?
he'd be a great bench player
but dont let him take away any mins from rasho or devin
Read the rest of the article- it goes on to say how the biggest problem the Spurs may have in years to come is their obsenely overrated point guard. Yeah we won the le which silences all the critics- except for me and anyone else with a brain and a remote knowledge of basketball. Tony Parker looked more lost in these Finals than he did in 2003 against Jason Kidd. The kid just isn't nearly as special as people on this board make him out to be. Read articles and reviews from other media sources for the truth on Parker. He's an average point guard with great quickness and absolutely no jump shot. In other words, he's the Afghanistan version of Jason Kidd. Dude was about as significant in these playoffs as Mengke Bateer was in 2003. Because we won, nobody wants to talk about it. How many end of quarter turnovers, how many crunch-time airballs, how many times did Chauncey Billups go through him like a hot knife through butter? If we had anything resembling a backup point guard, then he'd be riding the pine like he was in 2003. The words 'France' and 'tough' just don't go well together.
The fact that he makes more money than Ginobili is an absolute joke.
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