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    Rasho is a very serviceable backup center, and he could backup Lorenzen Wright.
    Make no mistake about it: Rasho would start. A defensive-minded true center is their missing piece, and Wright is asking the Grizz for a trade. If the trade is for just Posey, we need to get a pick as well.

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    Yea and why?? Ask pop and who was first starting center in the team for almost 2 seasons and they have a record. I tink that you just think too much of Nazr becouse of this playoffs and think that he is God. Yes trde him emidiatley and bring Scola and Oberto the 2 guys who did not prove anything in NBA ........ risk might be good or very bad

    Why? we won a championship with Nazr in the starting lineup...and Rasho barely playing..


    2 seasons with rasho starting... personally I think he's underachieved as a starter... and I don't think we won a championship the season he started in the playoffs...

    Playoffs is what it's all about, not the regular season.. you heard it.


    Mainly ^ That's why you should expect a trade..

    I know you being slovenian it might be hard to accept... but the truth is you gotta expect the worst..

    Im just saying expect it... wether it happens or not.

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    Why? we won a championship with Nazr in the starting lineup...and Rasho barely playing..


    Yes we could say that we won the finals without Nazr too becouse he did not do much , and rasho would be better in games with detroit. Horry was playing a lot Nazr was good with Suns, seattle

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    Yes we could say that we won the finals without Nazr too becouse he did not do much , and rasho would be better in games with detroit. Horry was playing a lot Nazr was good with Suns, seattle
    Are you saying that Rasho would've been as critical as Nazr was with offensive rebounding?

    As far as I know, he was critical...

    Far more than I've seen Rasho been..

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    Are you saying that Rasho would've been as critical as Nazr was with offensive rebounding?
    He's no slouch in that department -- and his team D is light years ahead of Nazr's. Not a sure bet we would have done much worse with Rasho.

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    Are you saying that Rasho would've been as critical as Nazr was with offensive rebounding?

    As far as I know, he was critical...

    Far more than I've seen Rasho been..
    what helps couple of rebounds if then he lost the ball or get blocked every time when he is trying to dunk?? and he was scared of Detroit

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    what helps couple of rebounds if then he lost the ball or get blocked every time when he is trying to dunk?? and he was scared of Detroit
    Scared of Detroit? Ok... sure he was.. Maybe that's why we lost.

    And are you saying you were planning on getting Rasho and Nazr on the same lineup?

    I was happy we never saw Rasho.....
    The truth is Nazr wasn't used to Detroit..and apparently he had no success with NY.
    I liked what he did on the court in the finals...somewhere he's never been, and apparently, Rasho neither.

    He barely got used to the Spurs and he won a championship as a starter..

    You can't take that away from him.

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    He barely got used to the Spurs and he won a championship as a starter..

    You can't take that away from him.
    No one is taking anything away from him. But you can't discount that Rasho is far ahead of Nazr defensively. If you are going to play that "what if" game, you could probably argue that the Spurs would have done better with Rasho in the postseason because he rotates to the right place defensively and would have kept people out of the paint. But there's no use to argue stuff that didn't happen. If Rasho would have gotten hurt earlier in the season, he probably would have had a chance to fight for his starting job. But since it was so late in the season when he got healthy, the Spurs weren't going to make any changes at that point. So maybe Rasho will have that chance in training camp. Having both Rasho and Nazr is a good thing, IMO.
    Last edited by Kori Ellis; 06-27-2005 at 10:37 AM.

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    Scared of Detroit? Ok... sure he was.. Maybe that's why we lost.
    that is true if you look at the woai video click Nazr and you will see that he is saying " i was so scared of detroit man"

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    For as good as the Spurs can be at straightening out guys with slightly loose screws, I think that Posey would be a bigger risk for us and for someone that we don't absolutely need right this moment, while giving someone in our division exactly what they need. Not worth pulling the trigger on.

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    If we play Miami in the Finals next year, we're gonna want to have Rasho off the bench. I'm in no big hurry to move him unless it's a no-brainer.

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    PG Parker, Udrih
    SG Ginobili, Barry
    SF Bowen, Battier or Posey
    PF Duncan, Scola
    C Mohammed, Oberto

    with LJIII, Devin, Horry, Marks, TMass still in the mix/ TBD.
    Now that would just kick ass...tres Argentinos....

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    We could try to pry Trevor Ariza from Thomas` cold dead hands too.

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    Trade: Radoslav Nesterovich+First Rnd #28+Romain Sato
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    Fredrick Weis+Trevor Ariza+Jerome Williams
    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Spurs Change in Team Outlook :+ 4.4 points 0.0 rebs +0.6 ast
    NY change in team outlook: -4.4 pts 0.0 reb - 0.6 ast


    Sucessfull scenario: Due to San Antonio and New York being over the cap, the15% trade rule is invoked. San Antonio and New York Had to be more than
    115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be acceptes , witch happend here.This Trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargining
    Aggrement.2442974

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    Good try, but the Spurs don't have Sato.

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    Random thought: If Jerome Williams had hair he'd look like Coolio.

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    No one is taking anything away from him. But you can't discount that Rasho is far ahead of Nazr defensively.
    He's barely adjusting... so I think that it wouldn't matter because the Spurs were doing good offensively against the first 3 teams, defense never kicked in...Rasho would've done bad against PHX..maybe that's why we were worried about them.

    So maybe Rasho will have that chance in training camp. Having both Rasho and Nazr is a good thing, IMO.
    I agree, I never disliked Rasho when he was a starter, but I often looked at his numbers..then looked at defense, I just wondered "what if" someone else could do better..

    I do believe they will compete for the starting job next season...but IMO I think Nazr will take it, because he's a better scorer and rebounder, and his Defense will improve. If he does this, there's no doubt in my mind that he will get it.

    I never said or guaranteed Rasho would be traded...

    I'm just saying it's a possibility.... and telling Slovenians to expect it, and I'm sure most of them do.

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    Wait we coulkd use Beno, what do you think????????

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    Since Nazr has one more year left on his contract and we've yet to see what Scola can do in the NBA, you don't move Rasho now. The Spurs have the luxury to wait and see what happens.

    Scola by all accounts is not going to cost an arm and a leg. Horry will cost probably $4 to 4.5 mil per for two seasons. Nazr? Hard to say. If I'm in the Spurs I ink an extension with him immediately. The price of bigmen is only going to go up and when you look at NBA rosters, Nazr is an above average center.

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    It seems like this trade proposal implies the need for an additional SF. I guess that is self-evident given Bowen's age and the uncertainty still surrounding Glenn Robinson's future and LJ III's progress.

    You guys know a ton more about the CBA and cap space stuf than I do.

    Let me ask you this: How much would it take to re-sign Glenn Robinson? More than Posey's contract?

    Secondly, is the LJ III project over? Does he have what it takes to take over for Bowen when that day comes?

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    Let me ask you this: How much would it take to re-sign Glenn Robinson? More than Posey's contract?
    No one knows. Glenn sat around all season and no one would touch him. But now that he behaved with the Spurs, other teams might be willing to take the risk. He didn't, however, do so much with the Spurs that there are going to be teams throwing big money at him. If the Spurs give half of the MLE to Scola, they could throw the other half at Glenn and see how much he wants to stay a Spur.

    Secondly, is the LJ III project over? Does he have what it takes to take over for Bowen when that day comes?
    I don't think it's over. I think he'll play on the Spurs summer league team and be re-signed at the minimum. Who knows what he is going to be able to do now that he's healthy. He's got the potential defensively, but he's got no offensive game to speak of at this point.

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    Another consideration is that the Spurs have the $1.6 million exception to use as well. Perhaps they could use that on Scola...

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    He's got the potential defensively, but he's got no offensive game to speak of at this point.
    So then he is Bruce Bowen already!

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