FBI Do ents Reveal Secret Nationwide Occupy Monitoring

[ElNono]

I didn't see that. Unless there were some of the people who organized this were under fbi investigation, this is another abuse of the FBI. Thought crimes, such as the planning phase of a crime? What do you think is too far?
FTR there were well over 100 arrests (for non-traffic ticket offenses) from all the groups throughout the country.

I have no problem with arrests and investigations once a crime has been committed, that's exactly how it should work. But before the act? Do we have LE building dossiers on people that claim will start a protest soon? Are they domestic terrorists?

[Capt Bringdown]

I'm OK with this level of concern.

Why does it seen unreasonable?

I don't know if it's unreasonable, but it's certainly worth paying attention to, especially given the historical context of post 9/11 moves made in the civil rights arena & looking further back to things like COINTELPRO.
But if you want to get ideological, yeah, I think Wall Street calling the shots and getting yet another reach-around/rubber stamp from Big Government is a bad deal for working people.

[Leetonidas]

The implications of this are pretty important imo. If the government deems the occupy movement a terrorist threat then they have free reign to declare our country to be a war zone and implicate marshal law...and with all the whackjobs shooting up recently and the calling to take guns away is just icing on the cake for the people up top imo. the american population will beg for their freedoms to be taken away in the name of safety.

[DarrinS]

Seemls like they'd have better things to do than monitor a bunch of illiterate, homeless people.

[boutons_deux]

Seemls like they'd have better things to do than monitor a bunch of illiterate, homeless people.

FBI did bring down the director of the CIA

[boutons_deux]

Court Rules Antiwar Activists Can Sue Government Spies

A federal appeals court involving antiwar activists who were secretly infiltrated by US military spies has ruled in favor of the activists, marking the first time a court has endorsed the people’s ability to sue the military for violating their First and Fourth Amendment rights.

“Declassified do ents obtained by Students for a Democratic Society and Port Militarization Resistance,”reports Democracy Now, “revealed a man everyone knew as ‘John Jacob’ was in fact John Towery,” who was assigned by the government to spy on the Washington state-based antiwar groups.

Towery was dispatched from a “fusion center,” or intelligence center, as part of the Department of Homeland Security’s post-9/11 anti-terrorism surveillance powers.

In October, the Senate Homeland Security subcommittee reviewed more than 600 reports that had come out of these so-called fusion centers and found the giant bureaucracy surrounding the program produced almost nothing that had to do with countering terrorist threats.

Instead, the government spy networks snooped on political activists and infiltrated groups that were peacefully exercising their cons utional rights to free speech.

“The centers have made headlines for circulating information about Ron Paul supporters, the ACLU, activists on both sides of the abortion debate, war protesters and advocates of gun rights,”

http://truth-out.org/news/item/13542...vernment-spies

[Winehole23]

Judges not in the pocket of the MIC/VRWC/1%ers? You said that was impossible.

[boutons_deux]

Judges not in the pocket of the MIC/VRWC/1%ers? You said that was impossible.

there is random judge here and there, but the Repugs/!%/VRWC have both the SCOTUS and a large portion of the federal appeals judges.