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    Do you really want to test a pissed off Texan law enforcement official?

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    The way they have managed to apply it? I would say yes in many cases. They use it as a catch-all for things never intended.
    Who is "they," what are the applications and unintended consequences you speak of? Be specific.

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    Like I said... Texas can always opt to secede...

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    Do you really want to test a pissed off Texan law enforcement official?
    Yes, if I am a federal law enforcement officer enforcing federal law.

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    Do you really want to test a pissed off Texan law enforcement official?
    That'd be a jailed Texas law enforcement official in no time...

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    Like I said... Texas can always opt to secede...


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    Who is "they," what are the applications and unintended consequences you speak of? Be specific.

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    LOL...

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    Like I said... Texas can always opt to secede...
    Texas proposed it, WH said no. That's the end of that.

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    That'd be a jailed Texas law enforcement official in no time...
    Maybe, maybe not...

    If both are following a law given to them to enforce, how long until a judge will have them released?

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    What's really LOL is you not answering any of the questions. I wasn't mocking him so much as you...

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    Maybe, maybe not...
    It's actually pretty clear cut. There's no maybe.

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    Exactly. Crafting of federal laws is a power delegated by the Cons ution to Congress. Which means it's not available to the States.
    Article 1, Section 8 lists what Congress is allowed to legislate, and it expressly states that Congress must "provide for organizing, ARMING, and disciplining" the "well-regulated militia" (the citizenry) whose rights are protected by the Second Amendment....

    It also expressly limits Congress to making only laws that are "necessary and proper" to maintain the "Powers vested by this Cons ution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof"... needless to say, harsh gun control seems to be directly opposed to the powers that are actually vested in Congress.....

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    Maybe, maybe not...

    If both are following a law given to them to enforce, how long until a judge will have them released?
    A federal judge enforcing federal law concerning a jailed Texas law enforcement officer?

    A pretty long time, depending on bail.

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    Maybe, maybe not...

    If both are following a law given to them to enforce, how long until a judge will have them released?
    Depending on how long the lawyer takes to draft the habeas pe ion, pretty quickly.

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    Article 1, Section 8 lists what Congress is allowed to legislate, and it expressly states that Congress must "provide for organizing, ARMING, and disciplining" the "well-regulated militia" (the citizenry) whose rights are protected by the Second Amendment....

    It also expressly limits Congress to making only laws that are "necessary and proper" to maintain the "Powers vested by this Cons ution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof"... needless to say, harsh gun control seems to be directly opposed to the powers that are actually vested in Congress.....
    That's opinion, but ultimately doesn't change the fact that federal law trumps state law in all cases.

    EDIT: I should add, except when declared uncons utional.

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    Article 1, Section 8 lists what Congress is allowed to legislate, and it expressly states that Congress must "provide for organizing, ARMING, and disciplining" the "well-regulated militia" (the citizenry) whose rights are protected by the Second Amendment....

    It also expressly limits Congress to making only laws that are "necessary and proper" to maintain the "Powers vested by this Cons ution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof"... needless to say, harsh gun control seems to be directly opposed to the powers that are actually vested in Congress.....
    [The Congress shall have Power] To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian tribes;

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    That's opinion, but ultimately doesn't change the fact that federal law trumps state law in all cases.
    Federal law is still subject to the terms of the Cons ution, which requires Congress to do the exact opposite of rounding up everyone's guns....

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    Federal law is still subject to the terms of the Cons ution, which requires Congress to do the exact opposite of rounding up everyone's guns....
    Congress isn't rounding anyone's guns last I checked. Link?

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    God forbid the Executive should take any administrative steps to, you know, enforce laws already passed by Congress . . .

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    Unfortunately for that lawmaker, federal trumps state law...

    Texas should just go ahead and secede, tbh...
    Funny to think that 150 years after the civil war a black president has declared war on southern conservatives.

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    Congress isn't rounding anyone's guns last I checked. Link?
    Moreover, gun control measures to this point have been found to be cons utional by the body that decides such cons utional issues as defined by the cons ution.

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    Congress isn't rounding anyone's guns last I checked. Link?
    That's what some clearly would like to see happen, tbh....

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    Funny to think that 150 years after the civil war a black president has declared war on southern conservatives.
    Gotta love the hyperbole.

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    That's what some clearly would like to see happen, tbh....
    Some would like to see the races separated again.

    Doesn't mean it's going to happen.

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    Isn't this how the civil war started? The south was afraid the president was trying to take away their slaves even though the president said they could keep them and the south continued their stupid ways. The results ended up with their slaves freed. Why wouldn't the outcome be the same with guns?

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