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    I need to get out of CA ASAP. After seeing what is happening in NY I fear we are next.

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    Unfortunately for that lawmaker, federal trumps state law...

    Texas should just go ahead and secede, tbh...

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    king obama lol... this reeks of butt hurtness.. just like the sissy who started the thread..

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    This posturing is hilarious.

    At some point there needs to be a showdown between the states and the federal government over the Supremacy Clause.
    That point was 1788, when the Supremacy Clause was ratified by the states along with the rest of the Cons ution.
    Last edited by ChumpDumper; 01-15-2013 at 02:36 PM.

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    Unfortunately for that lawmaker, federal trumps state law...

    Texas should just go ahead and secede, tbh...
    That doesn't mean federal officials can't be sitting in jail until the courts rule on it. Make an interesting 10th amendment case.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I guess we could say that Obama has told conservatives to suck it...

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    That doesn't mean federal officials can't be sitting in jail until the courts rule on it. Make an interesting 10th amendment case.
    lol cafeteria cons utionalist

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    That doesn't mean federal officials can't be sitting in jail until the courts rule on it. Make an interesting 10th amendment case.
    Nah... the DoJ can simply have the state sheriff arrested and the agent freed. There's really nothing interesting about it.

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    Unfortunately for that lawmaker, federal trumps state law...
    The Cons ution IS the law of the land, and it protects our gun rights with the Second Amendment and state sovereignty with the Tenth Amendment....

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    I would welcome the federal invasion of TX.. as a matter of fact I would turn in M>S faster than you could blink.. I'd have him hog tied and dragged through the streets.. to make a point that traitors aren't tolerated..

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    Unfortunately for that lawmaker, federal trumps state law...

    Texas should just go ahead and secede, tbh...

    Southerners writing letters to Obama asking if they can secede is on par with Kids writing letters to Santa for gifts

    in each instance the letter writer is a dumbass

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    The Cons ution IS the law of the land, and it protects our gun rights with the Second Amendment and state sovereignty with the Tenth Amendment....
    Sure... but 'state sovereignty' is limited to what's not under the federal umbrella. This isn't rocket science, it's the same reason states like Texas and Florida will have to enact ACA much to their disgust.

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    "protects our gun rights with the Second Amendment"

    it allows gun ownership for a well regulated citizen MILITARY militia, PERIOD. All the rest of your "rights" are NRA/gun industry LIES.





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    Sure... but 'state sovereignty' is limited to what's not under the federal umbrella. This isn't rocket science, it's the same reason states like Texas and Florida will have to enact ACA much to their disgust.
    The "federal umbrella" isn't always cons utional, and the federal government choosing to encroach into powers not delegated to them by the Cons ution doesn't change the words or intent of the Cons ution....

    At the end of the day, it seems the general public has forgotten that the Cons ution is a compact between the states.... if boundaries are overstepped at the federal level, the states should be allowed to protest if the law negatively impacts them in some way....

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    Sure... but 'state sovereignty' is limited to what's not under the federal umbrella. This isn't rocket science, it's the same reason states like Texas and Florida will have to enact ACA much to their disgust.
    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Cons ution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

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    The "federal umbrella" isn't always cons utional, and the federal government choosing to encroach into powers not delegated to them by the Cons ution doesn't change the words or intent of the Cons ution....

    At the end of the day, it seems the general public has forgotten that the Cons ution is a compact between the states.... if boundaries are overstepped at the federal level, the states should be allowed to protest if the law negatively impacts them in some way....
    They have a way... they can sue and go all the way to the SCOTUS to determine what's cons utional or not... including challenges under the 10th Amendment.

    Again, see ACA.

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    The "federal umbrella" isn't always cons utional, and the federal government choosing to encroach into powers not delegated to them by the Cons ution doesn't change the words or intent of the Cons ution....
    The New Deal says hi.

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    Is the commerce clause uncons utional?

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    This Cons ution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the cons ution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.
    Either get the federal law declared uncons utional or change Congress so the law will change.

    Quit being idiots about this.

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    That doesn't mean federal officials can't be sitting in jail until the courts rule on it.
    Wrong.

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    Is the commerce clause uncons utional?
    The way they have managed to apply it? I would say yes in many cases. They use it as a catch-all for things never intended.

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    "protects our gun rights with the Second Amendment"

    it allows gun ownership for a well regulated citizen MILITARY militia, PERIOD. All the rest of your "rights" are NRA/gun industry LIES.
    Nice spin attempt, but the NRA wasn't around when Federalist Paper #46 was written, dumbass....

    Let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government.... To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands...
    Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of.
    Let us not insult the free and gallant citizens of America with the su ion, that they would be less able to defend the rights of which they would be in actual possession, than the debased subjects of arbitrary power would be to rescue theirs from the hands of their oppressors.
    The "well-regulated" (which, by the way, means "properly trained," as opposed to the modern definition of regulation) militia is the citizenry itself, for the purposes of self-defense and protection from oppression....

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    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Cons ution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
    Exactly. Crafting of federal laws is a power delegated by the Cons ution to Congress. Which means it's not available to the States.

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