OT: MJ on who would be effective in his era

[Mel_13]

[Clipper Nation]

I'll admit that I definitely didn't phrase my argument clearly enough at all and made it sound like CP3's career was more accomplished, which WOULD be a re ed take, tbh.... my point was that since a player like Isiah was so effective in Jordan's era, surely a star point guard in the modern era who's statistically better would at least be just as effective....

So yeah, calling CP3 the better player without qualifying it by saying he's statistically better (i.e. setting aside the resume) was full re on my part, my bad...

[benstanfield]

Why the do we care what MJ thinks about current players????


Check out the Bobcats to see how much MJ knows about eyeballing talent.

[fevertrees]

[AaronY]

tbh everyone was high on Kwame Brown at the time.

If the Wizards hadn't drafted him he would have went 2nd

[Drachen]

The problem with your argument is that you are equating both eras which is kinda the point to the whole question

[midnightpulp]

I don't know about CP3 being better than Isiah (FWIW, Jerry West felt Joe Dumars was the better player), but CP3 would absolutely be a great player in the late 80s and 90s. CP3's game is quite similar to John Stockton's, who we all know was the most successful PG after Magic. They even share the negative attributes people associate with their games (flopping, whining, sneaky, etc).

[Clipper Nation]

Btw, flopping was introduced to the league in the Jordan era thanks to guys like Laimbeer, Divac, and Oakley...

[LkrFan]

What about Wade MJ?

[LkrFan]

MJ's delusional for leaving off CP3... Isiah's Pistons beat Jordan's Bulls several times in the playoffs and won championships, and CP3 is better than Isiah was, so how would CP3 not be successful in the '90s?

Zeke >>>>>> Chris Fall. It's not even close. Zeke would DOMINATE Chris Fall in any era.

[Sean Cagney]

MJ's delusional for leaving off CP3... Isiah's Pistons beat Jordan's Bulls several times in the playoffs and won championships, and CP3 is better than Isiah was, so how would CP3 not be successful in the '90s?

No I am sure he would be on the floor whining and pouting the whole damn game or flopping. I am sure little whiney face would not make it.

I think he could play in any era btw., but better than Zeke? I don't know about all that.

[midnightpulp]

Wade would be solid, too. I see a lot of Kevin Johnson in Wade.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Wade would be solid, too. I see a lot of Kevin Johnson in Wade.

too injury prone man...

[LkrFan]

Wade would be solid, too. I see a lot of Kevin Johnson in Wade.

Wade would be solid, but not a superstar. Think 16/6 type player. Joe D, MJ, and Pippen would all lock him down. Rodman and the Bad Boys would make him cry (literally). Anybody that needs a wheelchair for a shoulder injury is not made for the '80s NBA tbh.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Zeke >>>>>> Chris Fall. It's not even close. Zeke would DOMINATE Chris Fall in any era.

I don't really give a about that. I just wonder what would happen if Matt Barnes had tried his against the 90's Knicks or Pistons. Jon Starks, Charles Oakley, Dennis Rodman and Bill Laimbeer would have gone Kermit Washington.

[Fabbs]

Anyone notice how yellow the "whites" of Jordans eyes were during the interview?

[Koolaid_Man]

I'll admit that I definitely didn't phrase my argument clearly enough at all and made it sound like CP3's career was more accomplished, which WOULD be a re ed take, tbh.... my point was that since a player like Isiah was so effective in Jordan's era, surely a star point guard in the modern era who's statistically better would at least be just as effective....

So yeah, calling CP3 the better player without qualifying it by saying he's statistically better (i.e. setting aside the resume) was full re on my part, my bad...

^ @ the justification for going maximum overload on full re ....

[Latarian Milton]

MJ's delusional for leaving off CP3... Isiah's Pistons beat Jordan's Bulls several times in the playoffs and won championships, and CP3 is better than Isiah was, so how would CP3 not be successful in the '90s?

doubt you would've said the same had CP3 not joined your team tbh. played like an ass in his last years in new orleans before joining monkeyball and the real great players will never give up on their teams no matter how bad their teams suck. little played blithely for the hornets in his final years and made it obivous that he wanted to move out, but the true legends like dirk never ed about the lack of talents around him and the inactivity of his team's FO

[TDfan2007]

That was one of the best articles I've ever read. The same fire that made MJ great is slowly consuming him in all the wrong ways now that he's lost his primary outlet. I agree with MJ on that list, and his analysis of Lebron's left or right decision-making was spot-on. Guy's still a basketball genius in-game.

[spurraider21]

article dragged and was really wordy. anyway, i'm done listening to MJ's talent evaluations. sure, im "glad" he mentioned duncan, but thats a given so it isn't truly a complement. MJ left out a lot of guys that would have been just fine in any era like Wade, Paul, Pierce, Artest, etc

[TDMVPDPOY]

article dragged and was really wordy. anyway, i'm done listening to MJ's talent evaluations. sure, im "glad" he mentioned duncan, but thats a given so it isn't truly a complement. MJ left out a lot of guys that would have been just fine in any era like Wade, Paul, Pierce, Artest, etc

jordans era, especialy the mid90s-00, plenty of players and alot of franchise players on their last legs starting to coat ride together or accepting lesser roles....theres a few current players who played during the 90s, while current generation is lacking something....

[ambchang]

I actually think most perimeter players in today's game would suffer somewhat during the Jordan era. The league has changed to accommodate perimeter players, and it really isn't that much of a stretch to say that they would not be as successful back in the day.

I personally would say out of all the superstars, wade would likely suffer the most.

[TDfan2007]

I actually think most perimeter players in today's game would suffer somewhat during the Jordan era. The league has changed to accommodate perimeter players, and it really isn't that much of a stretch to say that they would not be as successful back in the day.

I personally would say out of all the superstars, wade would likely suffer the most.

Durant too.

[TDMVPDPOY]

ATL prime players would be sweet to watch....

[Latarian Milton]

I actually think most perimeter players in today's game would suffer somewhat during the Jordan era. The league has changed to accommodate perimeter players, and it really isn't that much of a stretch to say that they would not be as successful back in the day.

I personally would say out of all the superstars, wade would likely suffer the most.

dont see how wade would suffer more than the likes of, say durant who's obviously too skinny for the 80s games. 80s refs wouldn't hand them food stamps so the 06' wade and today's durant would probably suffer the most, but the current version of wade would work out just fine imho. has built some muscles and won't fear no one going 1on1 at the perimeter or the low post tbh