Wes was garbage before he went to a team/system/QB that turned Troy Brown into a 1200 yard receiver, and he'll be garbage after he leaves said team. Before someone decides to go off on a tangent about how he had the most productive 600 yard receiving season in the history of football during his last year in Miami therefore he wasn't "garbage" that's irrelevant to the fact he didn't have a snowball's chance in of ever sniffing $7M as a Dolphin. Teams aren't gonna pay $7,000,000 a year for a 5'8" system product in his 30s who can't catch important passes in the playoffs.
tbh these arguments are not convincing me... it is true he is in his 30s, but last time we went for the big name reciever, he spent more than a year to learn the playbook, also welker is not injury prone and can do a little bit of everything, not just be a wr.. plus he's wes welker, one of the three biggest wide reciever names.
Shhh. Don't convince them otherwise.
I want to see the meltdowns when the Pats give Wes the big bucks.
I won't care if Wes re-signs, i'll care if he re-signs and they don't get another impact receiver to be their #1 guy.
What the do you mean do a little bit of everything? Is your argument that his ability to fair catch punts is what makes him worth 7 mil a year?
yep. devin hester is a free agent if i remember correctly though.. why so energetic about wes, really? do you really think we went out this year because he dropped a catchable pass? the pats simply couldn't get any run going and couldn't stop anybody after mayo and talib went out.. also without gronkowki...
The momentum of the entire game shifted with that Welker drop. Not saying he's 100% to blame, but going up 20-7 will affect Baltimore mentally more than punting at 13-7 and giving them a shot at taking the lead right there.
Welker also missed a deep ball in that game due to being a little midget. Any normal sized receiver would have gotten a big gain.
This is partly Brady's fault, his habit of forcing it to Wes has caused Welker to be way overvalued with those gaudy numbers that don't at all reflect where he really ranks. It's not just with Welker tho, Brady gets into a habit of forcing it to Gronk in the red zone even when he's double covered, and that would be just as annoying except Gronk actually makes a play on alot of those bad passes.
At first glance it appeared that way, but had Brady hit Welker in stride the safety would've had an easier play on the ball. The throw was by design, imo. Still a difficult play, but he got both hands on it. The Baltimore drop, however, was brutal and the game was never the same after that. Even if that drive stalls after he catches it, New England likely tacks on a FG and goes up 2 scores.
This just made my day. I'm a way better dancer than Brady.
It only appeared to be a difficult play because of Welker's physical limitations. Any other receiver allegedly worth 7-9 mil a year and that's a routine catch.
We didn't go out because of Welker's specific drops, we went out the last two years because we relied on Welker to be a #1 receiver when he isn't.yep. devin hester is a free agent if i remember correctly though
They couldn't get any run game going because their best receiver is only a threat short and over the middle, so it's easy to stack the box.
well two years ago our D was laughable at best, so apparently the offense was more than good enough... what i'm saying, is that with a healthy hernandez-gronkowski combo, there is no need for a big name deep threat as there is plenty of space available for wes to make plays. We need to draft a young quick reciever and i would like to see edelman back, but the pressing concern is not there tbh.. again, with wes-aron-rob-brady and a capable O-line, there is no defense, and that is with no running game... keep the core, get everyone healthy and focus on D.
I don't see how you guys can say they relied on Wes to be a #1 in the Ravens game or that they forced passes into him, when both Lloyd and Hernandez had more targets (14, 14) than Wes (12).
8 rec 100+ and a TD on 12 attempts to him.
it would have been 12/12 if he was taller
Meh, i wouldn't mind seeing Edelman and Woodhead go. One midget sized honky at a skill position is enough.
Height had nothing to do with dropping an easy pass tbhI don't see how you guys can say they relied on Wes to be a #1 in the Ravens game or that they forced passes into him, when both Lloyd and Hernandez had more targets (14, 14) than Wes (12).
8 rec 100+ and a TD on 12 attempts to him.
How does the midget get open in the first place?
Or are you really saying you want to drop him because he dropped one?
I want to drop him because his skill set is the easiest to replace. There's a ton of quality slot receivers. Welker is the best of the bunch, no doubt about it, but he's still just a glorified slot receiver. You don't win les if a slot receiver is your top WR. You have a better shot with guys who make plays downfield and can handle a less than perfect pass. Wes has proven he can't.
I think woodhead is as good as gone with demps coming back and already good depth which is good since I hate him a lot more than welker or Edelman. I'd also take Edelman back as long as he's the 5th best receiver on the team who rarely sees the field outside of special teams.
This. And regarding 7mil, you may not think he's worth it DoK but he could still probably command it on the free market, if anything for name appeal alone.
Possibly, in which case that might mean Belichick lets him go completely because he's made it clear he's not willing to break the bank for Welker. I don't think he values Welker anymore than Lloyd and thus isn't willing to pay him much more. The guy I'm worried about getting a huge contract from another team is Vollmer. There are a lot of teams entering free agency with abysmal offensive lines. The one saving grace with Vollmer is that the free agent market is loaded at tackle when in another year he might be the best tackle available.
The only scenario where they go after a big name receiver is if they cut Lloyd and/or lose Welker which is why I'll be worried if they resign him. The chances of them keeping Lloyd, resigning Welker and also going after a big name at receiver are very slim.
Raven, I know Arrington was horrible last year but what do you suggest as a better option? He was good when he played as the nickel and only covered slots. I agree wholeheartedly that he's not a starting caliber corner and if Patricia is gonna keep trying him out wide then I'm in the same boat as you, but he fits the role of nickel corner who's also a beast on special teams. If there's a team out there that falls in love with the high interception number he had in 2011, then let him leave. Fortunately he was bad enough last year where he shouldn't cost too much.
i don't know, i don't know that much about football as to pretend to be a legit manager, i don't like chung and i don't like arrington, i do like ninkovich though... bottom line, among the bigger names, i would let go only those two. if we can't get a deal done, then just draft the replacements..
Don't worry about Chung, can't imagine he'll be resigned. Ninkovich will stay. Arrington will likely stay; only way he doesn't is if we draft a cornerback/safety in the first or second round.
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