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If by non-Lakerfan you mean Spurfan and Bill Simmons, then sure.
Most non-Laker fans do.
If by non-Lakerfan you mean Spurfan and Bill Simmons, then sure.
Keep going troll. Leaving out more names.
lighten up, brah
Touche
.....although one could argue that the winds of change are blowing here.
Very true. This is an insufficient criterion unfortunately.
Honestly I find DD to be quite levelheaded in these sorts of discussions, however biased he might be.
Goebbels rollin over in his grave at your disrespect for the greatest Aryan team of all-time tbh.
Exactly, my aim was to have a civil discourse about this--but in came T Park attacking me like I was a Big Montana
Had to google
Okay, that seriously made me
Hey!!! Make that 12!!
Roast beef is off the menu.
Carry on then.
Not really. THey aren't a lock to win it this year, but even if they do, wade and a lot of the role players are only getting older. And who knows how long Lebron stays.
Too bad the Rockets and Bulls teams never ran into each other in the Finals. Bulls probably still win, but prime Hakeem may have made it compe ive.
I would consider the Spurs a dynasty based on consistency alone. Look how many ing years they've had 50+ wins and made the playoffs. Not many other teams, if any, can match up to that streak.
Apparently, Shawn Marion did
Did not shut him down maybe, but did way more than "slowed him down a bit" tbh. We're not talking about a regular defender here, we're talking about Bruce Bowen.
To quote a post I wrote in 2008:
LeBron's performance in the 2007 playoffs:
LeBron's stats in the 1st round (against Washington)
- 27.7 pts, 8.5 rbs, 7.5 ast, 1.75 stls, .75 blk, 1.75 turnovers.
- FG: 42.5% (8.5/20) // 3P: 26.7% (1/3.75) // FT: 81.3%
- Hollinger Game Score avg = 24.575
LeBron's stats in the 2nd round (against the Nets)
- 24.6 pts, 7.33 rbs, 8.5 ast, 1.17 stls, .33 blk, 2.83 turnovers.
- FG: 42.3% (7.8/18.5) // 3P: 30.8% (1.33/4.33) // FT: 75.4%
- Hollinger Game Score avg = 19.97
LeBron's stats in the East Finals (against Detroit)
- 25.6 pts, 9.17 rbs, 8.5 ast, 2.67 stls, .5 blk, 3.17 turnovers.
- FG: 44.9% (8.83/19.67) // 3P: 35.7% (0.83/2.33) // FT: 74.1%
- Hollinger Game Score avg = 22.92
Average of those 3 series BEFORE San Antonio :
- 26.03 pts, 8.33 rbs, 8.17 ast, 1.86 stls, .53 blk, 2.58 turnovers.
- FG: 43.2% (8.38/19.39) // 3P: 31.1% (1.39/3.47) // FT: 76.9%
- Hollinger Game Score avg = 22.488
LeBron's stats in the NBA Finals (against San Antonio)
- 22 pts, 7 rbs, 6.75 ast, 1 stl, .5 blk, 5.75 turnovers.
- FG: 35.6% (8/22.5) // 3P: 18.2% (1/5.5) // FT: 69.0%
- Hollinger Game Score avg = 10.575
In short, he was worse in every single statistical category : minus 4 points, 1.33 rebounds and 1.42 assists from his playoffs average. All his percentages drop dramatically and he more than doubled his turnovers. His game score is less than half his playoffs' average.
Those are Bruce Bowen's stats for you right there
(data taken from basketball-reference.com)
Last edited by thiste; 06-01-2013 at 08:19 PM.
Thank you, kind sir, for providing the stats to support what I said in response to other gentleman.
There must be a Pistons dynasty then no? Back to back champs with 3 straight Finals appearances. Just saying.
I'll give them Dynasty status for repping 3 straight seasons, including winning b2b les. Rockets, no.
The "only back to back equals dynasty" is stupid. But hey, to each his own.
Our dynasty runs from 1997-2013 and if it weren't for the league changing rules, letting teams make ridiculously one sides trades (celtics, lakers) and some ridiculously called playoff games .la vs sac game 6. The spurs would be a dynasty. Ours is a dynasty not held back by other teams but by a conspiracy of an organization that would not let a small market team become a dynasty and ruin his league. David Stern is leaving this year and if the spurs win the le it's payback for all the bull he has put this organization and city through for his ratings and his leagues popularity. If the spurs win this year it's to make amends,
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