Lakers: After the Dwightmare, we have....

[TDMVPDPOY]

a lakerfan comparing lebrons all defensive vs kobe...lol everyone knows kobe all defensive honors are questionable...

[spurraider21]

the Melodrama.

http://nba.si.com/2013/10/16/carmelo...e-agency-2014/


Carmelo says he wants to be a free agent. I hope he joins the Lakers. Sign a 30 year old proven loser to a max contract

[LkrFan]

Let's talk about leadership. Tammy gets all kinds of props for his leadership. What about the Olympics? He had LeBronze, Wade, and AI - on his team. No way in should they have not won gold. No ing wayPERIOD. They were stacked, but like his marriage, Tammy was an Olympic failure.

Maybe they were missing something...a true leader who already won 3 rangs...let's delve into that, shall we?

It's 2008. Kobe is fresh off of an MVP season (should have won more, but white mediots are still holding Colorado against him, but I digress). After The Bronze! in 2004, American history was made in the worst way. Coach K called upon a 12-year NBA vet to save the U.S. Men's Olympic team. He had a 2-time chumpion that lead his NBA team to many 50-win teams, but without referee help, he could only muster a bronze medal. Enter Kobe Bean. Immediately in their first practice, Kobe set the tone. LeBronze and the crew followed. He practices as hard as he plays. It was to no one's surprise that they went on to win gold:



I'd even argue that Kobe taught LeBronze how to win. Prior to that 2008 Olympic team (for which Kobe was his teammate setting the tone) LeBronze had ZERO all defensive honors. It's true, LeBronze didn't win even one all defensive honor before he participated in the 2008 Olympics. Is it a coincidence that after the 2008 Olympics he finally became a perinneal all defender? I think not sons.

Still no significant reply to the above. Especially the blue area.

[Arnold Toht]

Once upon a time, there was this dude name LeBron James, who for almost a decade, he was fondly known as LeHype. You are probably asking how could that be because there isn't a statline he couldn't fill. You need 30pts, 12 asts, 8 rebs, 3 steals, 4 blocks - he was your man, 50-grand. However, no matter how many gaudy stats he would put up, he still couldn't...wait for it...WIN. In other words, the above bolded terms in the OP desribed him to a tee. Try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try (see what I did there - 8 times? ) as he must, he just couldn't get over the hump... So he decides to do the unthinkable. He did something equivalent of slapping his own mamma (wouldn't put it past him tbh ). He made The Decision! to collude with his two BFFs from the studly class of 2003. He just couldn't take being the above bolded terms in the OP any longer. He wanted to shed that choking label and he wanted to do it now. So what he couldn't get past Boston. He didn't want to pay his dues. He had an organization by their collective jock and bra straps. Anything he did, no matter how disrespectful or hideous, they would just smile, pat him on the back, and turn a blind eye to his shennangins. They spoiled him rotten.

He proceeded to take a wet dog on them anyway as he took his talents to South Beach and did so in front of millions upon millions of people. He didn't even have the balls to tell management face to face (cowardly tbh). Through his play, he was threatening to continue to be the above bolded terms in the OP again when Dirk decided to slap him in the Finals. Naturally, panic began to set in. He found himself beginning to really own the above bolded terms in the OP. It was getting to him. You could tell as he passed up last second shot after last second shot for fear of failure (pathetic tbh). The world was caving in on him. There was nowhere to go...until Mike Miller went nuts the following year from the land of plenty (saving his ass) and Shane Battier + Ray Allen followed suit the following year. Now Big Daddy Kang can puff out his chest a little bit more. 2x champion that would finally shed the above bolded terms in the OP thanks to collusion with his BFFs... and a few savy vets.

/The End

Hands down, man down.

[Bill_Brasky]

Let's talk about leadership. Tammy gets all kinds of props for his leadership. What about the Olympics? He had LeBronze, Wade, and AI - on his team. No way in should they have not won gold. No ing wayPERIOD. They were stacked, but like his marriage, Tammy was an Olympic failure.

Maybe they were missing something...a true leader who already won 3 rangs...let's delve into that, shall we?

It's 2008. Kobe is fresh off of an MVP season (should have won more, but white mediots are still holding Colorado against him, but I digress). After The Bronze! in 2004, American history was made in the worst way. Coach K called upon a 12-year NBA vet to save the U.S. Men's Olympic team. He had a 2-time chumpion that lead his NBA team to many 50-win teams, but without referee help, he could only muster a bronze medal. Enter Kobe Bean. Immediately in their first practice, Kobe set the tone. LeBronze and the crew followed. He practices as hard as he plays. It was to no one's surprise that they went on to win gold:



I'd even argue that Kobe taught LeBronze how to win. Prior to that 2008 Olympic team (for which Kobe was his teammate setting the tone) LeBronze had ZEROall defensive honors. It's true, LeBronze didn't win even one all defensive honor before he participated in the 2008 Olympics. Is it a coincidence that after the 2008 Olympics he finally became a perinneal all defender? I think not sons.

dude just be realistic. melo is cancer. he has done nothing of note in the playoffs. lebron taking 07 cavs to finals >>>> anything melon could ever dream of.

[scanry]

Let's talk about leadership. Tammy gets all kinds of props for his leadership. What about the Olympics? He had LeBronze, Wade, and AI - on his team. No way in should they have not won gold. No ing wayPERIOD. They were stacked, but like his marriage, Tammy was an Olympic failure.

Maybe they were missing something...a true leader who already won 3 rangs...let's delve into that, shall we?

It's 2008. Kobe is fresh off of an MVP season (should have won more, but white mediots are still holding Colorado against him, but I digress). After The Bronze! in 2004, American history was made in the worst way. Coach K called upon a 12-year NBA vet to save the U.S. Men's Olympic team. He had a 2-time chumpion that lead his NBA team to many 50-win teams, but without referee help, he could only muster a bronze medal. Enter Kobe Bean. Immediately in their first practice, Kobe set the tone. LeBronze and the crew followed. He practices as hard as he plays. It was to no one's surprise that they went on to win gold:



I'd even argue that Kobe taught LeBronze how to win. Prior to that 2008 Olympic team (for which Kobe was his teammate setting the tone) LeBronze had ZEROall defensive honors. It's true, LeBronze didn't win even one all defensive honor before he participated in the 2008 Olympics. Is it a coincidence that after the 2008 Olympics he finally became a perinneal all defender? I think not sons.

You're kidding yourself if you think Kobe is even in the ball park of Lebron. The game is becoming more and more effortless for Lebron. One thing i've noticed about Kobe is that he's always had to work real hard to make an impact (except the 2008 & the 2009 season, he looked real comfortable during those two years). He trusted his teammates and his shot selection was much better.

Thinking Kobe taught a thing or two (especially defense) to Lebron? Son that's called flattery. BTW Lebron was already the better player by 2008.

[irishock]

(except the 2008 & the 2009 season, he looked real comfortable during those two years). He trusted his teammates and his shot selection was much better.

Agree, I thought Kobe had changed for good back then. Sad to see him start chucking like a ing maniac ever since the lockout.

[spurraider21]

If LeBron learned his defense from Kobe, we'd see him "conserving energy for offense" a lot more

[scanry]

If LeBron learned his defense from Kobe, we'd see him "conserving energy for offense" a lot more

Unlike Kobe, Lebron didn't counterfeit another player's Jumper or a fadeaway or even a post game speech.

[LkrFan]

If LeBron learned his defense from Kobe, we'd see him "conserving energy for offense" a lot more

Did LeBron have ANY all defensive honors before the 2008 Olympics or not? I even posted a link that backs up my claim. And since i I know you are either going to dismiss my truth bomb or it, I'm gonna be preemptive: -100 points son. SMH

[LkrFan]

If LeBron learned his defense from Kobe, we'd see him "conserving energy for offense" a lot more

Kobe was 1st team all defense by his 4th year (this after him inexcusably sitting behind Eddie Jones for two straight years). So I'd say he was able to teach LeBron a thing or too about defense. He was more than qualified.

[Michael Jordan.]

Kobe was 1st team all defense by his 4th year (this after him inexcusably sitting behind Eddie Jones for two straight years). So I'd say he was able to teach LeBron a thing or too about defense. He was more than qualified.

Naw. Even Phil said Kobe wasn't great on defense.

[LkrFan]

Naw. Even Phil said Kobe wasn't great on defense.

True or false? Pippen was a better defender than MJ.

[Michael Jordan.]

True or false? Pippen was a better defender than MJ.

Why do you deflect so much?

[LkrFan]

Why do you deflect so much?

[ambchang]

Still no significant reply to the above. Especially the blue area.

USA wasn't a world power prior to WWII. Is it coincidence that USA learned to become a world power because they learned from the Nazis?

The reason you had no response earlier is because of how stupid it was.

[scanry]

True or false? Pippen was a better defender than MJ.

Pippen was the better defender by 1991. MJ however was the more decorated defensive player because he was always guarding the other team's best player and also because Pippen was too busy getting punked by Rodman and the Pistons.

[spurraider21]

Did LeBron have ANY all defensive honors before the 2008 Olympics or not? I even posted a link that backs up my claim. And since i I know you are either going to dismiss my truth bomb or it, I'm gonna be preemptive: -100 points son. SMH

thats some ty logic. maybe it was tashuan prince that inspired LeBron to play defense. he was on the 08 olympic team. maybe it was dwert. your assertion that "oh they were 2 of the 12 players on the same team so therefore it MUST have been kirby to teach him" is re ed. maybe it was coach K... re ed assumption leading to a re ed conclusion

[spurraider21]

Kobe was 1st team all defense by his 4th year (this after him inexcusably sitting behind Eddie Jones for two straight years). So I'd say he was able to teach LeBron a thing or too about defense. He was more than qualified.

we also know darn well that kobe got a lot of fantom all-defense nominations later in his career. while kirby was actually a good defender during the shaq era (probably because offense didn't require as much energy while shaq was getting tripled), his defense faded afterwards. he still got fantom nominations as late as 2012

[LkrFan]

USA wasn't a world power prior to WWII. Is it coincidence that USA learned to become a world power because they learned from the Nazis?

The reason you had no response earlier is because of how stupid it was.

Yet you and your fat fingers typed up a response anyway. Says a lot about you tbh.

[LkrFan]

Why do you deflect so much?

OK, I'm woke now... Fact: LBJ received no all defensive honors prior to the Olympics. Fact: LeBron lead the Cavs to be 7x losers. Fact: LeBronze earned his nickname in '04. Fact: Kobe has no bronze medals. Fact: Kobe was on the 1st team by his 22nd birthday and remained there for 7 years - prior to the '08 Olympics. Fact: Coach K was quoted as saying Kobe set the tone during their first practice in '08.

So it is reasonable for me make the correct Scientific assumption that Kobe showed LeBron how to win. Fact is, before the '08 Olympics - for which Kobe, was already a 3x NBA champion who just so happened to have 7 all defensive nominations too - indeed taught LeBron that defense wins championships. LBJ got another Finals beat down (on a stacked team I might add) by _irk since then, but afterwards he hasn't loss since. He can thank Kobe for that tbh.

[LkrFan]

Pippen was the better defender by 1991. MJ however was the more decorated defensive player because he was always guarding the other team's best player and also because Pippen was too busy getting punked by Rodman and the Pistons.

I'd say Pip was a better defender by '89. He just wasn't good enough offensively to help MJ get past the Bad Boys that year.

[LkrFan]

BNS s know darn well that kobe got a lot of fantom all-defense nominations later in his career. while kirby was actually a good defender during the shaq era (probably because offense didn't require as much energy while shaq was getting tripled), his defense faded afterwards. he still got fantom nominations as late as 2012

FIFY. Good thing the people who actually vote for these awards are not Laker hating Southwest Texas farmers, huh?

[spurraider21]

FIFY. Good thing the people who actually vote for these awards are not Laker hating Southwest Texas farmers, huh?

i don't live in texas. i actually live in LA so i watch essentially all laker/clipper games as well. teams with quick backcourts have given the lakers fits for years because both kirby and fisher would get smoked. whatever, i don't expect good takes from a be@ner kobestan anyway

[LkrFan]

i don't live in texas. i actually live in LA so i watch essentially all laker/clipper games as well. teams with quick backcourts have given the lakers fits for years because both kirby and fisher would get smoked. whatever, i don't expect good takes from a be@ner kobestan anyway

Don't matter where you're at. You're a Spur Fan? Then by natural law you are a farmer.

@ you still thinking I'm Hispanic. I'm a smart dude. I took Spanish in Middle and High School quite sometime ago. Because someone can speak Spanish, that means they're Hispanic. No ¿muy brillante, ¿verdad?