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If those morons in Cleveland pick Wiggins ahead Emiid,
then they deserve exactly what they get.
Doesn't matter... they're getting Wiggins..
If those morons in Cleveland pick Wiggins ahead Emiid,
then they deserve exactly what they get.
have also heard about a french SF Damian Inglish (i think thats spelled correctly) 6'9 with 7'3 wingspan and athletic. Cleanthony Early and Clint Cappela are names i have heard in mocks.
they are worried about Embiids back
a 3 year deal or a spread out 4 year deal is likely. Dont watch much of either play but he probably better defensively. Can be hid like Zbo playing with Gasol Splitter can make up for some of his deficiencies. Green and Leonard can certainly help too.
His game should age fairly well , already an elite jump shooter and can score in the post too.
another #1 pick?
Not that easy. Almost exact situation happened with Oden and Durant. Everyone said take the prodigy in the paint over the scorer,,,we know how that worked out.
You can't play Monroe and Splitter together. Neither can shoot to space the floor.
man stop listening to espn. nothign i've seen in this guy shows me he'll be an hakeem type player. people need to stop with the nonsense.
Yes, I think the Spurs could well trade for the first-overall pick if they wanted to. Kawhi, Green, and Splitter for 1, Bennett and Varejao should work. I think people are really overvaluing picks. Leonard's likely to be better than each of the players coming out this year. (I mean individually. Someone out of the pack should be better, but none of them have a great chance on their own). I don't say that because I buy into Leonard's hype. It's just a fact that there are too many busts taken at the top of the draft.
After flubbing up three top-five picks in a row, the Cavs would probably consider themselves lucky to get someone of Kawhi's caliber with their pick. You add in getting two championship-quality role-players who play at positions of dire need, and it's clear why that would be a prudent use of Cleveland's pick.
The question is more of what would make the Spurs do the trade. Obviously, Duncan would have to retire. But the team would never make this deal if Parker stayed. So he'd probably get traded in a separate deal (like to Orlando for 12). Ginobili would probably just retire, as he has little trade value. The Spurs would really have to believe in Embiid/Wiggins/whomever in order to get rid of Leonard (an extremely tempting bird-in-the-hand). Green has little value to a rebuilding team, so that part of the trade wouldn't matter. But Splitter could still fetch a decent price on the market. He's hardly a throw-in. The team would have to like Bennett (supposedly they did) and think they could flip Varejao later.
As for the second scenario. No, you don't trade Green for Monroe. He's not an adequate Duncan replacement, and unless the Spurs replace Green, they shouldn't even be thinking about reloading after that deal. Monroe is a poor fit next to Splitter. He can't space the floor, hogs the ball and doesn't play a lick of defense. It doesn't surprise me that the Spurs' FO seems so intellectual and complex when I see the ideas the writers throw out there.
People overrate new players. Embiid is more likely to play for five teams in 10 years than he is to be a 15-year anchor for a franchise, yet alone a top-10 GOAT candidate.
That's a terrible trade for Cleveland. Absolutely terrible.
+1,,,,it's up there with Laker fans saying they can trade Nash and #7 for Love and #13,,,LMAO.
Yeah, they'll be so much better off with Jabari Parker (you just know they'll draft another undersized four) and a gaping hole at small-forward while lacking the veteran role-players they need to make a real playoff push. What do you realistically think they'd get for the first pick?
They'll draft Wiggins.
Yeah, like they drafted Oladipo last year, Barnes the year before and Valanciunas in 2011, right?
I doubt they'd trade the pick outside of like 4-5 guys but they can do better than a package of Kawhi/Danny/Tiago, especially without giving up their No. 1 pick from last season and arguably their best big man.
C'mon Chin, you're my dude but you can't be serious about that trade scenario tbh.
They'll draft Wiggins,,,to pair with Irving and Waiters and leave Thompson and Bennett in the paint. Only way they take Embiid is if LeBron says he comes back( as SF).
If the choice is between potentially getting the second coming of Hakeem, or at best a guy who turns into Carmelo or Vince Carter, I'm taking the chance on #1 first.
This, Embiid is the clear number one pick, you dont have to think about it all that hard... The Cavs will probably pick Randle the 6"7 PF or something tho...
And thats why Las Vegas always wins,,,people willing to roll the dice(against the odds) on an injury prone player over a solid player,,,,once again Durant>Oden.
I don't think Bennett really has much value to the Cavs anymore. He's almost salary ballast at this point. About Varejao, Splitter is already better than him, and Anderson is even more fragile (and also expiring). I think the Cavs would (or should) trade him for Splitter straight up. Green is better than Bennett (obviously, since Bennett is horrible) if the Cavs are serious about winning now, they should make that deal if they get offered it straight up.
Really, the crux comes down to Kawhi's value. I think he'd be the second- third-best player in this draft class. He has as good of a chance to end up being better than any other the players picked this year than he does at being behind three or more of them. If Tristan Thompson had been the Leonard of power-forwards, he'd have been considered a great pick. Had Waiters been the Leonard of two-guards, he'd be considered a great pick. Obviously, there's no need to talk about Bennett and the mistakes there. So the idea of Kawhi being worth a top pick isn't outlandish to me, and I don't think his ceiling is nearly as high as some people say it is. If Tyrus Thomas can net the second-overall pick, Leonard could get the first.
As far as your perception of the pick's value, I think it's overblown. A top-five player is worth multiple first-overall picks. Top picks don't get (intentionally) traded for players often, but when they do, the return isn't very high. I don't think the Cavs could do much better than Kawhi at all. , Battier netted the eighth-overall pick in 2006. Shane Battier.
Maybe they could trade Danny Ferry again.
We're just gonna have to fundamentally disagree here. I don't think this draft class is as good as the 03 class but the upside is there. You don't trade away what Embiid/Wiggins can potentially become for somebody with Kawhi's ceiling ( and I LOVE Kawhi). You just don't, especially when you're a terrible franchise like Cleveland.
Even if it was Leonard plus + additional first round picks, I don't think you do it. Green/Splitter are great role players on San Antonio that don't nearly have the same impact on a team without Pop's system tbh. And I'm one of the biggest Green/Splitter homers on the site.
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