Kawhi > Sean ?

[thiste]

I think we can all agree Kawhi has a higher ceiling potential than either Sean or Bruce. And I think they would admit it themselves if asked about it. And I truly love these two guys. Now, they both have been crucial to this team and its legacy. Let's not get ahead of ourselves, Kawhi is only 22, has been with us for all of 2 years, and has yet to help us win a le...

... can't wait to see him do just that and get his first finals MVP on sunday night though

[mudyez]

You already have Mills there but you don't have Kawhi?!

again! its not just the 15 best players!

[baseline bum]

Actually I'm following them 20 years now...not seen much of Gervin...had mings in at one point (but at which spot superbigtime???)...had Willis over Rodman at one point, but thinking of Rodman's defense on Malone made me flip it back).

Your insight is appreciated. Keep it coming!

Gervin was Durant.

[baseline bum]

There are guys up in the rafters that didn't make your list? Silas? Moore? Don't forget Mike Mitc too.

I have always heard Silas was a way better Sam Cassell, but he's before my time. Moore doesn't belong on this list. I wouldn't take Mitc over Elliott either. Actually, I surely wouldn't put Mitc because it would mean bumping one of Bowen and Elliott.

[Mugen]

Who do you guys think would be a better color commentator tho?

[phxspurfan]

Sean Elliott in his prime was as good as Bowen defensively, but could also drop 20 points a night on you

Until you punched him in the kidney

[baseline bum]

If I had to pick a 12 man team it would be:

C Robinson
PF Duncan
SF Bowen
SG Gervin
PG Parker

6 Ginobili
7 Silas
8 Leonard
9 Elliott
10 Gilmore
11 mings
12 Kenon

[baseline bum]

Sean Elliott in his prime was as good as Bowen defensively, but could also drop 20 points a night on you.

You people have zero memories before 2005.

Sean was never close to Bruce defensively. Sean was an excellent defender, but Bruce was the best perimeter defender the league has seen since Pippen.

[baseline bum]

Who do you guys think would be a better color commentator tho?

Play by Play: Jay Howard
Color: Hubie Brown

[SupremeGuy]

Gervin > Manu, tbh.

[cjw]

I have always heard Silas was a way better Sam Cassell, but he's before my time. Moore doesn't belong on this list. I wouldn't take Mitc over Elliott either. Actually, I surely wouldn't put Mitc because it would mean bumping one of Bowen and Elliott.

Not to split hairs, but wasn't Moore much better than Avery? I'm not old enough to remember and we all know stats can be deceiving...

[rascal]

Ever hear of Terry mings?

ming was finished when he got to the Spurs. Kenon was much better.

[slick'81]

Kawahi ceiling is higher IMO

[Phenomanul]

Gervin > Manu, tbh.

Which is probably correct on reputation alone... without much debate from most...

That said,

Prime Ginobili was the more complete player who brought toughness, grit, compe ive fire and other intagibles to the fray EVERY night. In other words, if I wanted to win a basketball game I would choose Manu over Gervin (despite Gervin being the better scorer) because Manu was also a pesky defender and compe ively played that side of the ball as well - Gervin didn't (which is why he had more energy to expend on the offensive end). This is why Ginobili has won at every level, in every league he's played in... it's not a coincidence... In fact, I would venture to say that prime Ginobili would be able to bother prime Gervin more so than the reverse argument... Context is everything.

Don't get me wrong George Gervin was an ELITE scorer, which made him the great player he was... Manu's ELITE talent is knowing how to win (though his impact has waned with the years)... Picking Gervin over Manu seems like the simple thing to do... It would be like suggesting that Steve Nash was a better point guard than Gary Payton or Jason Kidd because he is a two time NBA MVP... but Nash's teams never played anything resembling defense... Gary Payton and Jason Kidd, on the other hand, were elite defenders at their position (who would rebound and steal the ball with the best of them)... so that to me would make the latter more complete players...

Just my two cents...

[SupremeGuy]

Different eras, different teams, blah blah blah...

If you put Gervin on this Spurs' team he'd be a great defender, tbh.

[Jenks]

Different eras, different teams, blah blah blah...

If you put Gervin on this Spurs' team he'd be a great defender, tbh.

And he'd score 10 to 15 less ppg on this Spurs team.

[Phenomanul]

Different eras, different teams, blah blah blah...

If you put Gervin on this Spurs' team he'd be a great defender, tbh.

How has that worked out for Marco Bellinelli or Gary Neal? Playing defense takes more than effort alone...

[CosmicCowboy]

Leonard definitely has the potential to be better than Elliott. People forget, though, that Elliott did probably the best job in the NBA of containing Jordan in his prime when the Bulls came to town but he had to give it up 100% on the defensive end. Being a stopper on LeBron and still ripping him a new asshole on offense definitely gives KL cred.

[SupremeGuy]

How has that worked out for Marco Bellinelli or Gary Neal? Playing defense takes more than effort alone...

Gervin's athleticism is offended that you compared it to Gary Neal's and Beli's. lol

[SupremeGuy]

Leonard definitely has the potential to be better than Elliott. People forget, though, that Elliott did probably the best job in the NBA of containing Jordan in his prime when the Bulls came to town but he had to give it up 100% on the defensive end. Being a stopper on LeBron and still ripping him a new asshole on offense definitely gives KL cred.

[Phenomanul]

Gervin's athleticism is offended that you compared it to Gary Neal's and Beli's. lol

And yet, Gervin RARELY played any defense whatsoever... so if you're implying he chose not to give an effort on that side of the ball (because he had the atleticism to do it), how would that place him above Manu?

[hitmantb]

Kwahi outplayed LeBron on his own home floor two games in a row in the NBA finals.

As good as Memorial Day miracle was, I don't think Sean ever had an equivalent performance.

Playing in one western conference final and two NBA finals first three years of your career also helps. Kwahi will be a much better player than Sean when he is done.

Kwahi is to me, the most physically gifted Spurs player since David Robinson. He made me feel like LeBron played on the Spurs last two games.

[SupremeGuy]

And yet, Gervin RARELY played any defense whatsoever... so if you're implying he chose not to give an effort on that side of the ball (because he had the atleticism to do it), how would that place him above Manu?

Like I said, "different eras, different teams, blah blah blah." lol

[Mikeanaro]

Gervin is a 2 guard not a small forward. No way could Manu hold Gervin's jock. Gervin would be a 25 to 30 pt scorer in the league today. Give him teammates like Duncan and David Robinson he might score more with all the open looks he would get.

It's hard to take Leonard at this point over Elliott, but he is the real deal, he is beginning to remind me of a young Scottie Pippen. If he continues to improve, I could see him being the cornerstone of this franchise and yes, way better than Elliott

Lol!
Because making points is the only way to success... Gervin can´t hold Manu´s undies.
Manu could score everything he wants but he is a team player not a ballhog monkeyballer quit the dope man

[T Park]

Sean was never close to Bruce defensively. Sean was an excellent defender, but Bruce was the best perimeter defender the league has seen since Pippen.

Sean shut down many a wing.

Watched in person my own self when hed guard Jordan.