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Robertson is a Pharisee. (Doncha see?)
I already posted in that one...but when jochhejaam posts religious propaganda (90% of his posts quote the bible), it just gets on my nerves...so I post evil communist atheist propaganda to steady the ship!
Robertson is a Pharisee. (Doncha see?)
Joch,
MIG, if you look at my posts in this thread you won't find me defending what he said. How'd you come up with that?You have problems with calling out Pat Robertson when he's advocating an assasination?
Holy .
I have a problem with someone judging him that knows nothing about him except the "controversial" things reported by the media. They don't and won't post anything positive he's done or stands for. Rather like judging a book by it's cover.
I recall you stating you like to have all the facts before you render opinions about things, remember that?
[/QUOTE]I thought the point of the attack was pretty damn self evident. Can you imagine Christ calling for an assasination? Because I sure as can't.
You said yourself you don't believe Christ is the Son of God so you don't know him at all. He's either who He claims he is or he's a liar, and since you refute what he says then you in essence have called Him a Liar. Why would you use the name of someone you consider to be a Liar to make a point?
Would it bother me personally to find out that a brutal dictator had been assassinated? No Would it bother you?
More or less repugnant than an assassination? ^^^^^^^^^Matt10
28Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in . -Jesus-
Oh, so now you're the one deciding whether I know Christ or not? Aren't you supposed to leave that judging to the big guy in the sky?
Hmmmmm.
Care to show me where I said that? You won't find it.
Could you possibly be confusing something I may have stated about Faith with words?
Keep it factual please.
How are you supposed to keep any conversation about faith factual?
No, Scripture doesn't say I can't make my own assessment on that. You are judged by your unbelief "Manny : I don't believe He's the Son of God", or judged by what you believe.
1 Corinthians 6:2
Don't you know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters"?
Oh, I give up. The problem with arguing with Christians on this subject is that if you search the bible you can find a damn saying for EVERYTHING.
I already posted in that one...but when jochhejaam posts religious propaganda (90% of his posts quote the bible), it just gets on my nerves...so I post evil communist atheist propaganda to steady the ship!
So your point is that your Godless and you think posting hogwash negates the words of Christ and God. okay
And regarding me getting on your nerves;
John 15
18 Jesus ; "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.
19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you."
Okay, but back on topic.
Pat Robertson is a bag.
Weak ending MIG. Resigned to defeat. It was inevitable but you caved in so easily.
You/I don't have the answers MIG, He does. I realize that, you don't...yet.
"You're" or "You are", and English is my third language...
yeah, it's hogwash...at least I don't deny my hogwash!
Awww, cute. But this is the political forum, not the Church forum. The only Church around is the Church of Manu, join or spend an eternity watching the Hawks!
I've gotta go to bed Spurmy, alarm goes off in 5 hours.
Back on topic, he's not a damn cleric.
well, it would be nice if you could ask Him what the answers are, cause we are having some problems down here...so, whatever connections you have would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch
There's some pretty weird in the bible, too.John 15
18 Jesus ; "If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first.
19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you."
God commands people to eat their own children - (Lev26:29; Dt28:53,57; 2Kg6:28-29; Is9:19-20; Jer19:9; Ezek5:10)
People consuming their own excrement and urine - (2Kg18:27, Is36:12; Ezek4:12,15),
Women having extramarital affairs - (Dt25:11-12)
Semen (Lev15:16-18;Gen38:9-10)
Wet dreams (Dt23:10-11)
Punishment for menstration (Lev15:19-30; 20:38)
Murdering your children (Ps137:9; Ex21:15, 17; Dt21:21)
The killing of unborn infants as God's punishment for sinning (Hosea9:14,16; 13:16)
Slavery is OK (Eph6:5, Col3:22)
And one of my faves, praising men like Lot (2Pet2:8) who tried to give his daughters to a group of men to rape (Gen19:8) and later impregnated them (Gen19:31,36).
I don't really care what you call him, to be honest. He's a politician who manipulates people through their faith for a partisan agenda.
People like that piss me off more than anyone.
And away we go.
I tried...
Sorry, but I couldn't resist. There's still five beers in the fridge.
He is a pretensious little bas isn't he. He funny to watch though, almost, but not as good as, Bill O'Reily. Get drunk, watch, it's hilarious.
I used to love to get ed up and watch Benny Hinn "minister" to people. He'd rattle some prayer off, touch the victim on the head, and they'd faint and fall backwards. Throw in some necromancy and the belief that he's possessed by Aimee McPherson's spirit, and watch the audience swoon.
Good .
I agree with you that there are a lot of charlatans out there and more than pissing us off they've pissed God off! Dangerous ground!
I just think the good Robertson's org. has done far outweighs the bad.
so people are off topic.. I for one think it's good that chavez is gone.. he will destabilize the region, soon military coups will prop up again causing more dirty wars.. like chile, argentina and other countries including mexico had during the 70's, 80's...
Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson called on Monday for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, calling him a "terrific danger" to the United States.
Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition of America and a former presidential candidate, said on "The 700 Club" it was the United States' duty to stop Chavez from making Venezuela a "launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism."
Chavez has emerged as one of the most outspoken critics of President Bush, accusing the United States of conspiring to topple his government and possibly backing plots to assassinate him. U.S. officials have called the accusations ridiculous.
"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson said. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop."
Electronic pages and a message to a Robertson spokeswoman were not immediately returned Monday evening.
Venezuela is the fifth largest oil exporter and a major supplier of oil to the United States. The CIA estimates that U.S. markets absorb almost 59 percent of Venezuela's total exports.
Venezuela's government has demanded in the past that the United States crack down on Cuban and Venezuelan "terrorists" in Florida who they say are conspiring against Chavez.
Robertson accused the United States of failing to act when Chavez was briefly overthrown in 2002.
"We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability," Robertson said.
"We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator," he continued. "It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."
It's freaks on the national stage like Robertson, calling for the assassination of the a foreign head of govt that gives people around the world to hate the USA. Or like that Repug who said it's "understandable" that the judiciary+family would be murdered because people didn't like their judgements.
I can guarantee you Rev Pat's nuttiness is in all the foreign press. It's "international" news when a US national public figure calls for the assassination of a democratically elected head of a foreign government. And who can deny that there right-wing gun-nuts, super-patriots who support the good cleric Pat in his assassination talk?
People around the world, mostly, love the freedom the USA represents, but they expect the USA to couple responsibility with that freedom. Assholes like Robertson represent a total breakdown in responsibility.
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