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    Republican man of God

    Pat Robertson, host of Christian Broadcasting Network's The 700 Club and founder of the Christian Coalition of America, called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

    From the August 22 broadcast of The 700 Club:

    ROBERTSON: There was a popular coup that overthrew him [Chavez]. And what did the United States State Department do about it? Virtually nothing. And as a result, within about 48 hours that coup was broken; Chavez was back in power, but we had a chance to move in. He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.

    You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.

    Chavez probably got more votes in his election then Robertson did when he ran for president.

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    Classic!

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    That guy's not a cleric.

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    He's quite a Christian. He's openly hoped for stricken Supreme Court justices to become more ill and now he's calling for assassination based on a religious difference.

    That strikes me as behavior modeled on Christ's.

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    He's quite a Christian. He's openly hoped for stricken Supreme Court justices to become more ill and now he's calling for assassination based on a religious difference.
    His differences with Chavez are not religious but political.

    This is one thing that amazes me about Christians in the US. Why are they so quick to support wars?

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    His differences with Chavez are not religious but political.

    This is one thing that amazes me about Christians in the US. Why are they so quick to support wars?

    Because they're not Christians, they just talk the talk.

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    That guy's not a cleric.
    Wikpedia says:

    A cleric is:

    A member of the clergy of a religion, especially one that has trained or ordained priests, preachers, or other religious professionals

    From Pat Robertson's web site biography:

    and a master of divinity degree from New York Theological Seminary in 1959.
    I thought he was a minister but that is not mentioned in his biography although he is best know for his television ministry CBN. I stand by my description of him as a radical cleric.

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    He has destroyed the Venezuelan economy, and he's going to make that a launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.
    Yeah right..like Muslims really care about Venzuelans.

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    Provide a link please Octillo. Can't find anything on Robertson's website regarding this and can't google any part (pasted parts of your posted quote word for word) of what he's alleged to have said.

    Thanks

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    Yeah, right. Hugo Chavez Mustaffah.

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    I tried clicking the link I have in the original post and it is not coming up for some reason. Might try this.

    Hmm, that doesn't seem to be working either. It is on the front of mediamatters.org page today. It has a video as well but I have not been able to get that to work either.

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    Wikpedia says:

    A cleric is:

    A member of the clergy of a religion, especially one that has trained or ordained priests, preachers, or other religious professionals

    From Pat Robertson's web site biography:
    Wikiedia
    Clergy is the generic term used to describe the formal religious leadership within a given religion. The term comes from Greek κληρος (fortune, or metaphorically, heritage).

    Depending on the religion, clergy usually take care of the ritual aspects of the religious life, teach or otherwise help in spreading the religion's doctrine and practices. They often deal with life-cycle events such as childbirth, cir cision, coming of age ceremonies, marriage, and death. Clergy of most faiths work both inside and outside formal houses of worship, and can be found working in hospitals, nursing homes, missions, armies, etc.

    There is a significant difference between clergy and theologians; clergy have the above-mentioned duties while theologians are scholars of religion and theology, and are not necessarily clergy. A lay-person can be a theologian. The two fields, of course, often overlap
    The man's a theologian yes, but not a member of the clergy, therefore he is not a cleric.

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    I tried clicking the link I have in the original post and it is not coming up for some reason. Might try this.

    Hmm, that doesn't seem to be working either. It is on the front of mediamatters.org page today. It has a video as well but I have not been able to get that to work either.
    Found it, thanks.

    I'll have to dig a little deeper into what's going on in Venezuela before commenting.

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200508220006

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    I try to be as loving and forgiving as possible, but as Christian, I believe that there's a nice warm seat waiting for Pat Robertson in . He and his Politicavangelist Herd have done irreparable damage to Christianity in America.

    That is all.

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    quit splitting hairs. He's widely known, but not widely revered, as REVEREND Pat Robertson, eg:

    http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2003/101203.asp

    I don't know if he's a pastor for a congregation, or affiliated with one of the big Protestant bureucracies, but he's just another hair-spray TV hustler that certainly will always follow the money.

    For all intents and purposes, he's a Protestant cleric. Just another militant of the "Christian" Taliban.

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    I try to be as loving and forgiving as possible, but as Christian, I believe that there's a nice warm seat waiting for Pat Robertson in . He and his Politicavangelist Herd have done irreparable damage to Christianity in America.

    That is all.
    Agreed

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    I try to be as loving and forgiving as possible, but as Christian, I believe that there's a nice warm seat waiting for Pat Robertson in . He and his Politicavangelist Herd have done irreparable damage to Christianity in America.

    That is all.
    That is why he is not a cleric, he's done nothing normal memebers of a clergy would do.

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    quit splitting hairs. He's widely known, but not widely revered, as REVEREND Pat Robertson, eg:

    http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2003/101203.asp

    I don't know if he's a pastor for a congregation, or affiliated with one of the big Protestant bureucracies, but he's just another hair-spray TV hustler that certainly will always follow the money.

    For all intents and purposes, he's a Protestant cleric. Just another militant of the "Christian" Taliban.

    What's the point of an outdated and contrived attack (your link) on Robertson? You're a professional critic, nothing more.

    I certainly don't agree with everything he says or does but he's done more for people in 1 hour of his life than you will in a lifetime. His organizations provide millions of tons of food, medicines and other forms of aid on a yearly basis to the needy and starving of the world.

    When's the last time you fed someone that was literally starving to death?

    I put a lot more stock into the actions of a man than I do his words.

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    I'm glad you and spurminator don't have any input into where I spend eternity.

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    I'm glad you and spurminator don't have any input into where I spend eternity.
    Eternity is an illusion created by the Church.

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    Eternity is an illusion created by the Church.
    Actually eternity existed before the Church

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    The Defense doesn't rest Manu'sMagicalLeftHand's Avatar
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    Actually eternity existed before the Church
    My point is that it's an idea created by people to feel that there is something after life.

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    Thanks for that.

    May I direct you to The God Thread, Part 2?

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Joch,

    You have problems with calling out Pat Robertson when he's advocating an assasination?

    Holy .

    I thought the point of the attack was pretty damn self evident. Can you imagine Christ calling for an assasination? Because I sure as can't.

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    Oh, and I think you of all people said words were just as important as actions, so I wish you would apply your criteria equally.

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