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"I don't think that religion is the cause for the dumbing down of America"
religin fine, even commendable, but politicized, in-your-face, dishonest religion injected into the politics isn't.
Nothing funnier than a pissed off atheist
"I don't think that religion is the cause for the dumbing down of America"
religin fine, even commendable, but politicized, in-your-face, dishonest religion injected into the politics isn't.
"Nothing funnier than a pissed off atheist"
Nothing more pathetic than right-winger erroneously labeling believers as atheists.
So, the only way that religion dumbs down people is that it makes them conservative (because all religious people are either conservative or burned at the stake), and everyone knows that conservatives are mindless robots that parrot the ideas of the wealthy elite and surely were told what to do?
I sure am glad you are smart, intelligent and not a conservative, or you'd be a Bible-totin' idiot!
Oh, GMAFB. Religion doesn't dumb down people, but ID does because it runs so contrary to proven science. The latest gambit by the ID crowd is calling gravity the unseen hand of God holding everyone and everything together - what a joke!
OK, if they're really doing that, then parody is dead.
*Sigh* See, if done right, ID could just be an outcrop of what pretty much every Christian believes --> that however the physical universe might work, God created it all, and you can appreciate him by studying it. The whole concept of "general revelation" means that man can glean some knowledge of who God is just by observing the universe.
The problem is that you have these idiot cracker monkeys who have this axe to grind. They come up with what to them is some kind of "deep thought" but which really pales in comparison to what an 18-year-old smoking pot comes up with. And because they're too ignorant and too lazy to find out what other people have studied and discovered, they figure that their "ideas" are just this huge bellweather that nobody else has ever thought of.
And look, I do some of this stuff too, you know, reading the Bible and figuring out how this passage and that applies to life, and how a certain word may have a deeper meaning if you look at the context in the original language. But I don't call it science. I call it religious devotion.
And when you have people trying to sell religious devotion as science in the public schools, then I don't care how well-meaning their motives are, they're liars and frauds.
"the only way that religion dumbs down people is that it makes them conservative"
That may be one way, thanks for your perspective.
But when "religion" that tells people under a religious spell that science, one of the crowning achievements of humanity, is full of because Genesis is literally true, that's dumbing down. Oh, don't forget to send in your check. "Religion" and God need LOTS of money.
What cracks me up is that "literalists" come and say, well, they don't take the Psalms literally because they're obviously poetry, while Genesis 1 is obviously historical prose.
Seriously. As if "and there was evening, and there was morning, the xxxth day," is something other than a poetic refrain.
Homework assignment for Christians: draw a table, 2 columns and 3 rows. Label the cells in the first column 1, 2, and 3 going down. Label the cells in the second column 4, 5, and 6 going down. Read Genesis 1 and write notes in each cell corresponding to what God created on that particular day.
See if you notice anything in common with the cells in each row, and the cells in each column.
Voila, you're just learned something about parallel structure in Hebrew poetry. There might even be some symbolism in there!
This argument for literal Genesis has nothing to do with real textual criticism. It just has a life of its own because of the lack of education in the evangelical American church.
Again, Intelligent Design <> Creationism
If all weebles are wibbles and some wibbles are wobbles, are all weebles wobbles? Creationism is an ill-informed and religiously-constrained interpretation of Intelligent Design
So, tell me, Nbadan...where did matter come from? Darwin left that out.
darwin was a naturalist not a physicist
TRO do u mean intelligent design is equal to creationism, or what? im still a little confused
but for the most part i do agree with your post
No, Creationism attempts to explain the "apparent" intelligent design of biologic organisms by ascribing it to a Omnipotent God. Intelligent Design, attempts to apply the scientific method to the "apparent" intelligent design of biologic organisms and discover what could account for the intricate construction of the gene or the living cell, etc...
Darwin didn't attempt to explain where life came from, just what it did once it existed. And, even then, his natural selection theory is full of holes. Many species of animals and plants seem to have just popped into existence, without a lineage, long after the primordial soup dried up.
That's a first.
By the way, I believe in God. I also believe there is a common thread that binds Intelligent Design, Creationism, and Evolution into a cogent truth of how we came to be.
Creationism, to me, can be described as an unsophisticated, oversimplified attempt at grasping an intelligent creator and that creator's design. That's not a value statement on religion. But, certainly, Intelligent Design theory holds that the creator need not be omnipotent, omnipresent, or omniscient...any more than a computer programmer is those things with the product of their labors.
Darwin was scoffed in his day
kind of like whottt
"where did matter come from? Darwin left that out."
Darwinian evolution applies to living things. Matter isn't living so the origin of matter is not addressed by evolutionary theory. sucks, huh?
Living organisms are constructed of matter. Surely you're not suggesting we're not over 70% H2O or that we don't contain iron, potassium, magnesium, etc... WE are carbon-based organisms that, at our most elemental level are just as inanimate as a rock. What makes us different is the animation of amino acids and the double-helix of the DNA molecule. Which, by the way, are fascinating examples of repe ive and near-perfect design."where did matter come from? Darwin left that out."
Darwinian evolution applies to living things. Matter isn't living so the origin of matter is not addressed by evolutionary theory. sucks, huh?
Where did DNA come from?
So, are you suggesting that inanimate matter and animate organisms originated separately and, if so, which came first?
It is also boring...for those who can read.
Sorry if you decide to remain ill-informed simply because you can't stay focused for 30 minutes.
i agree...dont think i'm always out to talk , if you say something i agree with i'll tell you
im not ever going to say i think Bush should be on rushmore, but what you say makes sense
BTW darwin's theory was in fact full of holes, and some have been filled since then
he didn't even have a method of selection, he had no idea of alleles, genes, etc, he had no unit of replication....if only he had known of Gregor Mendel's work he probably would have made a better theory
he did try though, he revised "on the origin of species" like 10 times
No, it is just that I can find better things to focus on for 30 minutes.
Reading that just doesn't do anything for me but if it gets your rocks off go for it.
Well, if you can resist the urge to equate Intelligent Design to Creationism, by not informing yourself, fine by me...
John McCain is a ing fake ass pussy
the dude sat there during interviews during oct/nov 04 and would scoff bush, make really good points, just talk foul mess about Bush
then say he supported Bush and his party and say how him and bush are such good friends
hes seen the party go neo (outlandishly outlandish spending, big gov, the theft of our cons utional rights) and he doesnt do
Yes, one time he was on the Daily Show with Jon Stuart
Jon Stuart did the Jon Stuart thing, ribbed bush and asked mccain questions....McCain made jokes right back to Stuart alluding to how stupid, incompetent Bush was...then at the end of the interview Jon Stuart was like "so who are you voting for in the primary?" and McCain instantly replied "Double You"
Mookie and I were like wha wha ahwwh aw hw whaaaaaaaat??
You can imagine our looks of consternation.
yeah and he did like 2 more interviews like that
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