One body identified in Mexico student massacre

[Yonivore]

I'm fairly sure boutons thinks he's fighting for something too...

Also, in my defense (over the comparison to boutons), I rarely resort to the spittle-flecked hot-keyed invectives boutons apparently has queued up for every response. Most of the time, I can't even understand what he's trying to say through all the nonsense. Can you?

[ElNono]

You don't have to justify anything to me, tbh....

In fairness, boutons has also mentioned instances where he doesn't agree with Barry, but when you overlap on 98% of the party line, it's difficult not to call a spade a spade... I mean, baseline and me are far from the first guys to notice...

The thing with boutons is that invariably you already know what he's going to say or where he stands on pretty much anything.
It's boring, has as much redeemable value as watching MSNBC (or so I heard). Discerning what he writes is a mere formality in almost every case.

The thing is, you're basically the same on the other side of the spectrum. Replace MSNBC with Fox News and we basically have the same description.

I don't ignore posters though, I think once in a blue moon either you/boutons regurgitate a solid point made by somebody else, and that makes it worth it. So, it's a lot of noise, but it's not all bad.

IMO, obviously.

[SupremeGuy]

It's crazy how much more dangerous Mexico has gotten in the last 20 years. I remember going over there as a kid and never having to worry about bull . It's so corrupt from top to bottom that I don't even think it's ever going to get any better until something drastic happens.

[ElNono]

It's crazy how much more dangerous Mexico has gotten in the last 20 years. I remember going over there as a kid and never having to worry about bull . It's so corrupt from top to bottom that I don't even think it's ever going to get any better until something drastic happens.

Never been, but I heard it's has beautiful places to visit. Unfortunately, like you said, I'm staying as far as possible until some of this stuff is dealt with.

[baseline bum]

It's crazy how much more dangerous Mexico has gotten in the last 20 years. I remember going over there as a kid and never having to worry about bull . It's so corrupt from top to bottom that I don't even think it's ever going to get any better until something drastic happens.

I stopped going after I had two cops plant weed on me, arrest me, take me in an alley in the middle of some ed up Mexican ghetto, and demand a bribe. Thought I was about to get beat down or worse tbh. Got let go when they only found $20 in my wallet (and not the $200 in my sock )

[SupremeGuy]

Yeah man, my Mom is from Monterrey and we would go often to visit family and stuff. , even the border towns were cool to visit on the weekends. Cool little markets and . I'd run around with my cousins as little kids and we never worried about getting kidnapped or anything stupid. Now? that. I don't even go as an adult. When the peso devalued was around when everything went to . lol

[baseline bum]

Never been, but I heard it's has beautiful places to visit. Unfortunately, like you said, I'm staying as far as possible until some of this stuff is dealt with.

Donkey show isn't bad tbh

[SupremeGuy]

I stopped going after I had two cops plant weed on me, arrest me, take me in an alley in the middle of some ed up Mexican ghetto, and demand a bribe. Thought I was about to get beat down or worse tbh. Got let go when they only found $20 in my wallet (and not the $200 in my sock )

I got stopped leaving a bar when I was younger, and I remember I had actually not drank much that night, like only 2 or 3 beers over a two hour span. Well a cop basically just pulls me over cause of my plates and was giving me but one of the friends I was with told the cops that she was pregnant with my kid lol and he actually let us go. The bull story strung at his heart strings

[SupremeGuy]

Donkey show isn't bad tbh

that, I never went to boys town or any of that. My friend Pete would always tell us stories of him haggling the price of head down to like 2 bucks.

[baseline bum]

I got stopped leaving a bar when I was younger, and I remember I had actually not drank much that night, like only 2 or 3 beers over a two hour span. Well a cop basically just pulls me over cause of my plates and was giving me but one of the friends I was with told the cops that she was pregnant with my kid lol and he actually let us go. The bull story strung at his heart strings

Mother ers had drove me around in the paddywagon for an hour trying to scare me, and stopped and demanded bribes three different times. I was also handcuffed to some gangster in on the scam who told me "In Mexico ju don get no phone call; ju jus get a kick in the culo". Funniest part was when the gangster tried to cry to the cop and the cop told him $150 to get out. So at the next stop the Mexican handed him a roll of bills which was a $20 around some $1 bills and the cop let him go, as if to show how I could get out too. I just pretended I didn't understand anything he was saying and their scam didn't work so well with the English speaking East LA cholo looking mother er set free and gone.

[baseline bum]

that, I never went to boys town or any of that. My friend Pete would always tell us stories of him haggling the price of head down to like 2 bucks.

Did they give change if you only had twenties?

[SupremeGuy]

I'll ask Pete next time I see him. lol

[Th'Pusher]

This isn't true and we've gone over this before.

Y'all just never bring up topics on which we agree.

I vehemently disagreed with Bush's financial policies in the last year of his presidency. Totally ed up in doing Obama a solid and releasing the TERP funds when he was a lame duck.

I think the War on Drugs is costing us in lives and treasure and should be abandoned.

I think we probably agree on the increasingly militaristic practices of the police -- mostly as it relates to their war on drugs and no knock warrants..

No, I'm not a shill for the Republicans or Bush, I just think you're wrong on the issues that I argue for.

How about you regurgitating that ridiculous bull from Ted Cruz on net neutrality when it was clear neither you, nor he, had any idea wtf you were talking about? That was party line talking point bull swallowed whole and regurgitated word for word.

[Yonivore]

How about you regurgitating that ridiculous bull from Ted Cruz on net neutrality when it was clear neither you, nor he, had any idea wtf you were talking about? That was party line talking point bull swallowed whole and regurgitated word for word.

My agreement with Cruz related to his distrust that government won't it up. I still hold that position.

[Th'Pusher]

My agreement with Cruz related to his distrust that government won't it up. I still hold that position.

His arguement was ridiculous and critically flawed while showing a complete lack of understanding of the issue. Does it bother you that Cruz received campaign contributions from Comcast and do you think that these contributions had anything to do with his completely illogical stance on "regulating the Internet"?

[Yonivore]

His arguement was ridiculous and critically flawed while showing a complete lack of understanding of the issue. Does it bother you that Cruz received campaign contributions from Comcast and do you think that these contributions had anything to do with his completely illogical stance on "regulating the Internet"?

Uh, no?

[Th'Pusher]

Uh, no?

If it ware Harry Reid or Diane Feinstein making Cruz' ridiculous argument while taking campaign contributions from Comcast would that bother you?

And to be clear, I'm not talking about the whole government s everything up argument. I'm referring to the fact that Cruz was unable to make the distinction between regulating the Internet and regulating access to the Internet, which, in this case, would be maintaining the status quo for all intents and purposes.

[ChumpDumper]

Yoni still doesn't know that net neutrality is about.

[Th'Pusher]

Yoni still doesn't know that net neutrality is about.

That's obvious. But he still maintains the party line which is why he's the definition of a party shill.

[Winehole23]

Mexico based public announcements on coerced confessions:

The office of Mexico's federal attorney general determined that security forces tortured a key witness in the case of the missing 43 students before certifying his testimony and prosecuting him anyway, according to do ents obtained by the Spanish-language news site Animal Político and published there Thursday.


When Mexican security forces first handed Patricio Reyes Landa Saldago over to the attorney general’s office to take his confession, a medical evaluation showed that he bore 72 wounds, including scabs, bruising and red marks associated with electric shocks. In his testimony, Landa says he was tortured.



A separate evaluation, dated Dec. 31 and ordered by the attorney general's office to determine the origin of the wounds, concluded that Landa had in fact been tortured. Even so, then-Attorney General Jesús Murillo Karam continued to base his public statements about what happened to the missing students in large part on the apparently coerced confession, along with the testimony of three other accused gang members.


The report by Animal Político, which was based on do ents obtained under Mexican transparency laws, further confirms the conclusions of a series of reports by investigative journalists and those of a panel of experts fielded by the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights -- namely, that key witnesses in the investigation were tortured.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0af3706e02d6e