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why do yo uhave lebron as 2 in career? career wise lists would probably put kobe in number 2 tbh just cause he had 1 repeat and 3peat. Also I think it's debatable whether TD or Lebron had the more dominant peak, but yah Shaq has that one.
its 2014-2015 kobe with more minutes
why do yo uhave lebron as 2 in career? career wise lists would probably put kobe in number 2 tbh just cause he had 1 repeat and 3peat. Also I think it's debatable whether TD or Lebron had the more dominant peak, but yah Shaq has that one.
Career.
1.Duncan
2.Manu
3.Parker
4.Shaq
5.Kobe
6.Nowitsky
7.Kidd
8.Nash
Everything else sucked ass, Wade and Lebron were s who bought rings, Fancy like prime TMac or Vinsanity was just that they aint won .
Durant did what? Westchucks? Drose? CP3? a couple nice regular season performances doesnt qualify as Top 10, I bet there is a lot of great dunkers and shooters playing pickup games at some park but are they in some Top 10? Nooooope.
Gasol is garbage, Kome only needed a decent center and Pau was barely that, scoring 14 points per game superstar... yeah maybe in Europe.
Top 10 are the ones who rang the rest are just clowns.
How did Wade buy the 2006 ring? He put them on his back and took over in the Finals with some incredible stats while Shaq was average. I disagree on Wade in his prime, beast. Gasol garbage? He was the reason LA got back up there after the trade, very solid in those runs. Gasol is not top 10 I agree but come on now Garbage? Hardly.
You said the Top ten are the ones who rang and put Nash in there? He didn't RING.
BTW your top three is a little biased there, come on man. Tim I agree on at #1.
1. Duncan
2. Kobe
3: Lebron
4. Dirk
5. KD
6. Wade
7. Nash
8. CP3
9. Billiips
10. Manu
1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Kobe
4. Lebron
5. Garnett
6. Dirk
7. Wade
8. Pau
9. Kidd
10. Pierce
11. Nash
12. Ginobili
13. Iverson
14. Ray Allen
15. Parker
In fairness to AI, he was a 6' baller, and it's not as if they didn't try to stop him.
Yeah, really...anyway, we talkin' 'bout PRACTICE...
1. Duncan
2. Shaq
3. Lebron
4. Kobe
5. Dirk
6. Garnett
7. Wade
8. Kidd
9. Nash
10. Iverson
ST is the only place where Dirk>KG. I wonder if it has to do with TD disliking KG.
1. TD
2. Shaq
3. LBJ
4. Kirby
5. KG
6. Dirk
7. Wade
8. Dwight
9. Nash
10. Kidd
11. Manu
12. Pierce
13. Iverson
14. KD
15. Allen
Tmac and Yao would be up there w/o the injuries tbh.
Nash is the only guy who deserved to rang with Dirk but never had a supporting cast, played pretty well even with back problems and always a team guy thats sad.
Wade bought the ring shooting more FTs than the whole Mavs team like 4 games in a row.
Pau was/is a clunky center, did nothing in Memphis and was decent in LA he is not a game changer look what happened playing with Dwert MWP NASH in the 2013.
Now he is having a decent year playing for the Bulls going along with the flow.
Spurs since the Big 3 won 4, Lakers 5 but 2002 was so rigged it doesnt count to me, Wade is a phony East player like Lebron, and then one ring wonders like Dirk.
What Spurs accomplished was much difficult than what a big market can get... like the Lakers receiving calls and media love, is not the same what Popovich accomplished retooling his team staying no matter what than what Phil Jackson did... having always a killer team with Jordans Pippens Kobes Shaqs, Spoelstra won 2 without coaching look at him now.
Thats why Tim Manu and Tony are my top 3, their careers are much more rewarding than the Lakers they had to overcame everything even going from a 1st round exit, to second round exit, to conference finals exit, to finals exit and yet they have 4 rings and counting as a trio whats better than that?.
TD
Tony
Kawhi
Manu
1) Duncan
2) Shaq
3) LeBron
4) KG
5) Dirk
6) Wade
7) Nash
8) CP3
9) Kidd
10) KD/Dwight/Pierce...all those guys could be #10
How could you have Manu over Tony in career?
Tony Parker
4x Champion, 1x FMVP, 6x All-Star, 4x All-NBA
Regular Season: 16.9 PPG, 5.9 APG, 2.9 RPG, 0.9 SPG on 0.494 shooting with a 725-282 record.
Playoffs: 18.9 PPG, 5.3 APG, 3.0 RPG, 0.9 SPG on 0.463 shooting with a 122-74 record.
Manu Ginobili
4x Champion, 0x FMVP, 2x All-Star, 2x All-NBA, 6th Man of the Year
Regular Season: 14.3 PPG, 4.0 APG, 3.8 RPG, 1.4 SPG on 0.450 shooting with a 625-239 record.
Playoffs: 15.4 PPG, 4.0 APG, 4.3 RPG, 1.4 SPG on 0.436 shooting with a 117-63 record.
Here we go
I'm good if you want to go with Manu over Tony in terms of talent, but it would be pretty tough to make a case that he's had a better overall NBA career especially coming off the bench most of it and having lots of injuries.
manu coming off the bench had nothing to do with ability. nothing.
In terms of Consistency, no players can overtake Duncan, Ginobili, Dirk and Kobe. These four players have continue to be game changing players untill the end of their careers.
All the others on the list have potential of being better, or have one or two very good seasons. But none of them has shown they can do it on consistent basis over a decade. The only exception is Tony who can also join that list.
Of course TP would have better raw stats, he's a starter.
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Obviously Tony has gotten more accolades than Manu...but there's no doubt Manu has been the better player (i.e. more impact on the court) over the course of their careers.
Kobe has just as many accolades as Duncan (one less FMVP, but more all-star and All-NBA selections), but Duncan is noticeably higher than Kobe on an all-time list still.
I don't use accolades too much...so many of them are heavily based on reputation rather than actually playing at a certain level.
Yeah, Manu career wise should triumph when you add international ball. In fact that might move him into the top 10-15 on this list.
But I'm with Parker> Manu on raw stats Manu > Parker on impact. Both were great on driving to get basket. Manu more creative but Tony worked harder I think and never had bad injuries in his prime.
Basketball-Reference
For combined seasons; played in the NBA/BAA; in the regular season; from 1995-96 to 2014-15; sorted by descending Win Shares.
Defining "this generation" as twenty years, which has endpoints very favorable to Duncan.
1) Tim Duncan
2) Dirk Nowitzki
3) Kevin Garnett
4) LeBron James
5) Kobe Bryant
6) Paul Pierce
7) Ray Allen
8) Shaquille O'Neal
9) Jason Kidd
10) Chris Paul
22) Tony Parker
26) Manu Ginobili
28) Tracy McGrady
39) Michael Finley
43) David Robinson
48) Richard Jefferson
62) Brent Barry
63) Antonio McDyess
72) Kurt Thomas
MVPARKER>>>EVITAPERIOD
What?
Kobe has 2 FMVPs, Duncan has 3.
Kobe has 1 MVP, Duncan has 2.
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