For anyone that is unbiased, it is easy to see how he started the season well and then significantly declined after the Achilles injury. You don't drop off that fast. It's easily injury related.
TP/Manu's decline isn't surprising. Duncan still being one of the best bigs in the league is insane doe.
Manu, Tony, and Pop better wake up every single morning thanking Timmy for the careers they've had tbh.
For anyone that is unbiased, it is easy to see how he started the season well and then significantly declined after the Achilles injury. You don't drop off that fast. It's easily injury related.
not even close to true. You are rewriting history to fit your bias. Parker has had a great run as one of the best guards in the league. I've never been a big fan, but I'm not so biased I can't acknowledge his greatness.
Tony wasn't winning the 2013 FMVP, tbh.
There's nothing weird about "wearing out" at 37 years old, especially for a guard with as many miles as Manu (when you consider he's been a pro since he was 19, plus NT in the summers).
What's really weird is how good Tim is at 39...
It was revealed that Duncan would have won the Finals MVP if we didn't choke away that game.
People actually think tony was going to win FMVP in 2013.![]()
Exactly. I never would have predicted Manu would be as productive as he is at this age a decade ago. Pop really did well with managing his (and Duncan's) minutes over the years. That's why I don't hate on Pop for not playing Kawhi 40 MPG.
As I showed on the previous page, Parker had no business winning FMVP in that series. Duncan would have been the clear-winner going away.
All of the pg's in the league don't have much to fall back on once they lose their step.
MVParker and Manu are more than good they are great players, but there is a difference between great (HOF even) and Goats (greatest of all time). Tony and Manu are the former, Timmy is the later there is no shame in that.
2013 was Tony's most dominant season, tbh... he was good to very good before, he would get his numbers, but there was always something that would come up (ie: Sefolosha in 2012) that would just put a dent or stop and then we had to look somewhere else.
But in 2013 he was unstoppable, and he was also finally able to pick his spots on when to score and create... the disappointing part is that it lasted so little, tbh...
That would make sense except he didn't pull the achilles injury excuse until like the last week of the season.
Uh.........how is this amazing?
Tim shuffles along the court. His vertical leap is four inches. Manu and Tony crash to the floor ninety times a game and make hard, full speed cuts to the basket. The latter style tears up knees and ankles.
Anyone with half a brain saw this coming. The only possible debate was which would wear down faster, Manu or Parker.
No it was intermittent . He tried to rest it midseason and it came back.
Do your research. It wasn't an achilles boo boo he sat out for, it was a mild asscheek strain.
I mean, Duncan's accomplishments are undeniably amazing in every aspect, but still it's not too surprising that guards wear out their value faster basketball-wise before big men do. That's how it usually works.
How about Nash or Stockton or Kidd? Or even someone like Dre Miller or Billups? If Enrique ever had an ounce of their courtvision or ever developed his 3 PT shot he wouldn't be such a scrub tbh.
We're talking about an 18 foot shot. If he can't adjust to make that, then he's trash. Players have all sorts of aches and pains every night and they compensate for it. It's not a damn hard shot to ask him to make 40% from. He's like 10% or something.
Duncan has been good but it's really a combo of things. One, bigs can always play until they are in their late 30s unless they get a career ending injury. Still, most are not as effective as Duncan. Part of that is Duncan's high skill level and part of that is the lack of big man talent in the league. Robinson was in the hey day of the centers. Duncan isn't playing against the Shaqs, Robinsons, Hakeems, or even the Ewings. He's facing bigs that are athletic, but not highly skilled. Now when Duncan dominated as a power forwRd, it was at a time when that was the deepest position in the league, talent-wise. But now, not so much. It's still incredible that he can play at such a high level, but I do think there are various reasons for that.
You agree that the last couple of years, he could make that shot? And I assume you agree that he played well against Paul two seasons ago? You don't lose a mid range jump shot overnight without something affecting it. If you want to write him off, fine. But I think Parker could regain much of his form with good health. I think he could have another two years at a high level, if healthy. Better hope so, bc he isn't getting traded and we've got no one on the roster that is more than a short term replacement.
lol all those names...one ring.
The way Manu's played and all the summers he's played I'm amazed he's still playing. I always predicted he would be done at 32-34 at the latest.
I think he is so mentally weak that he can't hit that shot this series. He's in the NBA for Christs sake. If he can't contribute, he needs to pull himself out because Pop damn sure isn't going to do it.
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