Beno has knee injury????

**Marcus Bryant** · 09-13-2005

Yeah, Holt's being cheap and for someone who claims to be a fan you would think he would be pissed about the team losing talent for nothing and to make ownership's pockets fatter.

It was a ty basketball move.

As for payroll, so ing what? Plenty of teams in this league make that level of commitment. It's nothing special.

The Spurs have an opportunity to win multiple championships over the course of the next few seasons. Now is not the time for ownership to step in and start ing things up.

Recognize, you dumb boorish .

**Marcus Bryant** · 09-13-2005

Lest we forget that the basketball people in the organization have had to force Holt Cat to stop sucking all of the cash out of the organization before. Last summer Pop went to the public when it looked like Parker would not be extended. When has Pop ever done that before or since?

Pop and RC clearly did not want to lose Brown. They took the entire week they had to respond to Utah's contract offer by trying to trade Brent Barry. Now, if Pop thinks that he'd prefer Brown over Barry that should give you some concern about what transpired.

That is, unless you care about something other than basketball, like slurping down what Holt Cat's nuts have to offer.

**coopdogg3** · 09-13-2005

I think the offering of Barry was also a purely financial consideration. With Finley (at $2.75 million) probably taking a lot of Barry's minutes (at around $5 million), it makes more sense to trade Barry. Nothing happened. Guess they figured it didn't pay to have Devin Brown (at $5 million) to back-up Barry (at $5 million) to back up Finely (at 2.75 million) to back-up our starting rotation. So to stop the madness, they let Devin go.

Again, I don't know why you keep coming back to losing Devin Brown for nothing. It wasn't like they were offered a trade that they refused. No team was willing to trade for him, one team was willing to offer Brown a contract that the Spurs didn't want to match due to the luxury tax. Spurs had to choose between over-paying their 12th man who has injury concerns, or letting him go. They chose the fiscally responsible path (I guess you would call it the cheap path, but I disagree) and they let him go to a team where he could actually get some sort of meaningful minutes. Unless this team just gets absolutely racked with injuries, I don't see how Devin could have played any meaningful time here.

coopdogg3

**Marcus Bryant** · 09-13-2005

It is the cheap path. It's clear that RC and Pop preferred Brown over Barry. Now you have a player worthy of that consideration by the basketball people who ownership says you can't have over chump change.

Fans don't support the Spurs to see them make as much $ as possible. They support them to pursue championships. Losing talent to squeeze out a few more measly bucks sucks, at least if you're a fan.

I could give 2 flips about how much $ Holt Cat makes. If the current ownership group can't handle paying for a team that has won 2 les in 3 seasons with the prospect of more on the way, then it's time for a new ownership group.

**coopdogg3** · 09-13-2005

I enjoy rooting for a team that just can't throw money at every situation to meet every need. I like watching a FO bring in young, cheap, promising players instead of just throwing money around at every player. I would hate to be a Yankees, Knicks, or Mavericks (at least the Mavericks of 2-3 years ago) fan. There is no skill or fun in that as far as I am concerned. People are fans for different reasons I suppose.

I want the owners of the teams I root for to make $. Don't know if that makes me any less of a fan. But when owners get carried away and stop caring about what players cost, they end up in painful situations. Like the Knicks, or having to use the amnesty clause to get rid of players, or having strikes and lock-outs because owners have invested to much in guaranteed contracts to players who aren't producing. Because the Spurs are fiscally responsible, they have been able to capitalize on other teams mistakes. Because our basketball people have a great reputation, other players want to play here. I think they have worked well together. Guess time will tell of course.

coopdogg3

**Marcus Bryant** · 09-13-2005

Win championships and the $ will take care of itself.

Again, it's been the basketball people in San Antonio who are responsible for the Spurs' success. Citing a couple of spendthrift organizations in the league is irrelevant. The Knicks have made a host of bad basketball decisions. Their excessive spending only magnifies those mistakes.

Losing Devin Brown over a 1 year, $2.5 million contract was a bad basketball decision, one precipiated by a concern for something other than what was best for the team.

And yes, I could care less if the team makes $25 mil instead of $30 mil. Cheer for whatever you like, but as a fan I'd say your priorities are off.

**Dario** · 09-13-2005

Well i believe its also best for devin to play and not sit back and enjoy the ride like that australian guy did last year. If he wants to make any serious cash or impact he needs to play while he is still young. I dont see him playing that much on the spurs.

**Kori Ellis** · 09-13-2005

... question on the original topic ...

So Beno isn't playing in the Euro tournament? Is he being sent back to San Antonio?

**Marcus Bryant** · 09-13-2005

It was one season. After that year he would have been an unrestricted free agent and free to sign with any team that offered him what he wanted.

One year for $2.5 mil, I might add. I could understand the acceptance in the forum of losing Brown if it was a 4, 5 or 6 season commitment but it was for one season.

Plus, let's not forget that the Spurs don't even pay the full cost of their payroll, thanks to the lux tax program.

**Ozzy** · 09-13-2005

Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

... question on the original topic ...

So Beno isn't playing in the Euro tournament? Is he being sent back to San Antonio?

According to the report of the biggest Slovenian comercial TV station (POP TV) Beno is already on the way to San Antonio. (but don't take this for granted, please)

The meber of the staff (I think it was the official doctor of the team, not sure) said that Beno has stretched knee ligaments and that meniscus was also slightly damaged. Beno will have to take a three to four wekks rest to heal the injury.

They could risk to take Beno to the EC, but that could possibly ruin the rest of his season. So they (logically) decided to cut him of the roster for the EC

**Solid D** · 09-13-2005

Originally Posted by Ozzy

According to the report of the biggest Slovenian comercial TV station (POP TV) Beno is already on the way to San Antonio.

**SLOVENIAN 8** · 09-13-2005

http://sportal.siol.net/default.asp?...30509132053170

Beno si bo moral vzeti èas

Bivšega èlana Maccabija, Olimpije, … sedaj èaka sreèanje s klubskimi zdravniki, ki ga bodo vzeli pod svoje okrilje. "Beno je nadaljeval pot v Ameriko, kjer bo ponovno opravil magnetno resonanco, nato pa se bodo klubski zdravniki odloèili za konzervativno zdravljenje, torej brez operacije. Takšne poškodbe so lahko v prihodnosti tudi moteèe za igralce, vendar se jih da v celoti pozdraviti, èe igralec posveti dovolj èasa za rehabilitacijo, oziroma celjenje rane," je še za konec povedal Macura.

There says that Beno is coming to San Antoniu to meet with club doctor and then they will see how to fix the injury. Also says that this kind of injury can be very anoyig for the rest of his life but also could be fix without any problems if player took enough time for rehabilitation.

**Marcus Bryant** · 09-13-2005

So now we have 4 swingmen and a young guard who might not be useful. Great. Go Spurs Go!

**ducks** · 09-13-2005

yep the spurs are going to the top of the league

**boutons** · 09-13-2005

"stretched knee ligaments and that meniscus was also slightly damaged"

sonofa , not a just a knee bruise or a muscle bruise, as I was expecting.

only 3,4 weeks for stretched ligaments? hmmm...

Nick's arthritis better behave itself.

**picnroll** · 09-13-2005

Have I mentioned how much I think playing international ball for your country sucks?

**ducks** · 09-13-2005

now beno is not tradeable
especially to the nets!

**SLOVENIAN 8** · 09-13-2005

I must mentioned that Beno after his fall and injury on that game he still play later on this game on his own decision. So i think that this injury is not so bad......

**Kori Ellis** · 09-13-2005

Well hopefully Beno's treatment is precautionary. Last summer when he got hurt in some game for Slovenia, they said strained knee ligaments too, I believe. But he didn't need much treatment upon his return to S.A.

**spurs_fan_in_exile** · 09-13-2005

Weren't there some knee injury concerns when the Spurs drafted him? Granted he looked durable enough in the NBA but still. It's not a huge blow to the Spurs if they let it heal properly. I don't think Nick's going to completely burn himself out if he has to be the primary back up for a little while at the start of the year.

**Solid D** · 09-13-2005

I guess everyone has their roles in this forum.

Posted 2 weeks ago, the day Pop announced that Nick Van Exel was in town. Not much concern then about Devin or Beno.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...749#post460749

Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

If you believe the active roster must fit to a certain form, then the perimeter rotation would look like...

Starters
1 Parker
2 Ginobili
3 Bowen

Bench
1 NVE
2 Barry
2 Brown or Finley
3 GRob or Barnes

That gives you a pure point backup and 3 swings on the bench. Pretty much the standard NBA format.

Of course, there is nothing that says you must have a prototypical rotation. I'd be surprised if they landed Finley but hey, they just got NVE.

If they got Finley and retained GRob the Spurs would have one of an experienced, versatile, and nasty bench.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...766#post460766

Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Bench
1 NVE
2 Barry
2 Finley
3 Robinson
4 Horry
5 Oberto
5 Nesterovic

**Kori Ellis** · 09-13-2005

After the Spurs drafted him last year, he hurt his knee in summer league practice, his hand in a summer league game, and then his knee in a game in Slovenia. At that point, I thought he was a china doll but he didn't really have many injury concerns during the regular season last year.

**spurs_fan_in_exile** · 09-13-2005

Originally Posted by Kori Ellis

After the Spurs drafted him last year, he hurt his knee in summer league practice, his hand in a summer league game, and then his knee in a game in Slovenia. At that point, I thought he was a china doll but he didn't really have many injury concerns during the regular season last year.

Interesting injury pattern. I think from the months of July through the start of training camp he should be put in protective custody or house arrest or something. Apparently if the weather's warm enough he turns into Vince Carter's slower, whiter cousin.

**Marcus Bryant** · 09-13-2005

Originally Posted by Solid D

I guess everyone has their roles in this forum.

Posted 2 weeks ago, the day Pop announced that Nick Van Exel was in town. Not much concern then about Devin or Beno.

Didn't know about Udrih's injury and, yeah, those were big acquisitions for the Spurs...for next season. Unfortunately, as we have found out, Finley and NVE are only under contract for that season.

Also, there was no assumption that the Spurs were going to let Devin walk for nothing in return.

The role's the same.

**Oscar DeLa** · 09-13-2005

I don't know what it is but not Beno!

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