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No wonder the Spurs were looking for another decent point guard this summer.
I'm glad the Spurs let a young perimeter player go to save Holt Cat some $.
http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1083
(Won't let me cut and paste the paragraph so you'll have to scroll down)
Anyone heard anything about the injury?
Please delete if already posted.
thanks.
No wonder the Spurs were looking for another decent point guard this summer.
I'm glad the Spurs let a young perimeter player go to save Holt Cat some $.
lol typical Cryant.
Uses a topic totally different from this to state his idiotic biased opinion.
We've been talking about this for two days.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...&page=16&pp=26
Yeah, how dare I post a "biased opinion".
Any more gems?
If they would have used Devin Brown to back-up Beno (which is why we have NVE and Barry can even play a few mins at PG), then you would be hearing some angry posts from me. Plus the injury, from what I've heard, doesn't appear to be serious. But don't let that stop you from blasting RC for not over-paying our 12th man.
coopdogg3
What good is Beno if he's ineffective?
The Spurs only have 4 swings as it is, but don't let facts snuff out your flames.
when its an opinion that is a beaten horse that is no more than in dust then yeah, it is a "how dare you"how dare I post a "biased opinion
and signing a 2.5 million dollar player who would be a 13th man "Makes sense"The Spurs only have 4 swings as it is
You could be a senator.
So an uninjured Beno is ineffective?? From what I've read he is back to practive and should be fine by November. Again, we have plenty of depth, maybe too much depth. But lets just take a hypothetical look at minutes played and see where Devin Brown could fit. A total of 144 minutes at the 1-2-3 spots.
Parker - played 34 mins last year, lets put him at 30 to keep him fresh - 30
Manu - played about 30 mins last year, high-octane style needs rest - 28
Bruce Bowen - player 32 mins last year, getting older, go with 28 - 28
that is a total of 86 mins, which leaves 58 minutes for Barry, Finley and NVE
give NVE 18-20 mins
give Fin 25 mins
leaves 13-15 mins for Barry.
So losing Beno would not really pose a problem at all. In fact if we lost a second starter it wouldn't be that big of a deal. I think NVE could easily handle 20-25 mins, Fin could go 25-30 and maybe 20-25 mins for Barry if we had too. Plus we make pick up some scrub (Melvin Sanders maybe??) that throws in 5-7 mins.
In other words, Devin Brown is very much a luxury and not a necessity. IMO a luxury not worth $5 mil, especially with the health issues. This team is quite capable of handling injuries to 2 players in the back-court, at least that's my opinion.
Guess these aren't facts, but I think it demonstrates that the Spurs have a very good, very deep team. Simply doesn't leave room to let Devin Brown shine.
coopdogg3
PS Marcus, I disagree very much over your opinion of Devin Brown, but after visiting the Mavericks boards and listening to them rationalize losing Finley, I am very glad to be in this position.And listening to those Pacer's fans. Wow. All I can say is, your defense of San Antonio's players is admirable. Don't stop. Even though we are on opposite sides of the fence on this issue.
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From what I've read there is good and bad news.
Beno is going to be fine but unfortunately not in enough time to compete with Slovenia in their upcoming tournament.
Beno stay home
- a decision by slovenian head coach Pipan is that Benoo is to ijured to play and will not go to EC, according to slovenian news http://24ur.com/naslovnica/novice/s...913_3060976.php
I'll post what I want, Stay Puff.
When you only have 4 wings and a number of players in your swingman rotation and a significant number of them are old and/or under 1 year deals, then yeah, mother er, it makes plenty of sense, at least to those of us who are basketball fans and not Peter Holt worshippers.and signing a 2.5 million dollar player who would be a 13th man "Makes sense"
You could be a senator.
BTW, the Spurs have had end of the bench players who cost a tad bit more than $2.5 mil in salary for a season.
PS...why are you still here you little ? Seriously. You gave up on this team during the NBA Finals and now you are up in here acting like you are still a fan. you. You are the lowest form of "fan" there is. Just go.
Some people need post-Devin counseling, and that's okay. Some people also needed post-Malik counseling. The pains of financial responsibility can run deep. I guess we'll see how smart it was to let Devin walk...in June.
Get healthy "John Boy" Udrih! Now you will have a better recovery time for training camp.
Last edited by Solid D; 09-13-2005 at 09:58 AM.
To get an idea how deep the Spurs are this season:
In the case that both Beno and Tony go down with injuries, NVE would be the point guard, with the posibility of Barry or even Manu playing back-up point, with Bruce and Finley taking the 2 & 3 spots in those minutes. Maybe the only position to be filled is a back-up SF if you think that Pop won't play Finley there.
If both go down with injuries then you have a 57 year old NVE with a bum knee logging 30 minutes a night.
No thanks.
Well Brent Barry played 20 mins last year, Manu could play 10 mins at PG, and that leaves 18 mins for NVE at point. Obviously you could play with these numbers a little. I'm sure NVE can handle 20-25 mins for a short term situation. My question is what do we do with all of these players if we don't have a major injury. We seem to have too many players with too few min IMO, unless we have some major injuries, God forbid.
coopdogg3
"John-boy Udrih"
classic.
Of course, Spur players never get injured, so having a capable reserve swingman on the bench at the price of slightly more than the minimum is a luxury that Holt Cat's grandkids cannot afford.
I don't know what you mean by "slightly more". Guess we are gonna argue semantics. $2.5 million I would call quite a bit more than the minimum since its more than 2x what the minimum is. But since it would have cost Holt $5 million to sign him with the luxury tax, I would call that a great deal more than the minimum. Especially for an unproven player (who did show some promise) with injury concerns.
And I think we have demonstrated that this team can easily handle two major injuries in our front court, and still field a great team. How many teams can say that? What if no one gets injured? Would you want to pay $5 million to give Devin maybe 2-3 mins a night? Even with the serious injuries you may only be able to sneak him maybe 5-10 mins. This team is so insanely deep, I really don't understand your concern. The Spurs can find players with all the potential and promise of Devin for the minimum, or at least I have blind faith in the Spur's ability to find those type of players.
coopdogg3
The Spurs have spent more than that for end of the bench players over the course of a season or two.
Again, it's not like Finley and NVE are locked up long term nor is Brent Barry not fast approaching his 35th birthday. It's not about next season it's about the next 3. Your swingman rotation is old. It's not like the Spurs have always been able to replenish their perimeter with young talent.
Losing Brown over relatively minor $ (by NBA standards) was a bad basketball move.
You know, I'm not too popular in here and that's fine. Most of that is by design anyways. But only an idiot would be complaining about losing a third-string, undersized shooting guard with history of nerve damage in an offseason that witnessed the Spurs acquire both Nick Van Exel and Michael Finley. I mean that just redefines re ed in my opinion. Not only that, but we add possibly the best available big man in Europe, Fabricio Oberto and resign Robert Horry but somehow losing Devin Brown is an issue?!
The Spurs increased their payroll by over 15 million dollars- after winning a championship and have spent more than 130 million dollars in two summers alone, securing a young, talented nucleus and this jagoff is complaining about losing Devin Brown and Holt being cheap...?
Get a ing clue you total waste of carbon...........
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