I'm paying for your war. You should be happy instead of insulting me.
Where did I say that?
You have no clue how I feel about anything. You keep saying I hate America, which I don't. I just can't stand arrogant idiots such as you. And many Americans don't agree with you. Millions actually. That does not mean they hate America, no matter how many times your hatefull idiotic self repeats it.
And the last country I would like the US to be transformed to is Argentina. Which again proves what the difference between you and me is. -o.
Last edited by smeagol; 09-16-2005 at 11:28 PM.
Neither GB or the UK = Australia. But I get your point.
What do I have to do to prove to you I don't hate America, I simply don't agree with some of its policies and I certainly can't stand arrogant Americans who are . . . well ing arrogants pricks.
I have always defended you in the discussions you've had regarding Manu vs Hedo, the Coyote and Shane Heal because I see when people twist the truth. And in those discussion, pretty much you were right.
But you are acting just like chump and the others, saying over and over again that I hate America and that I like communism, whem I don't.
whottt, if you can't see the difference bewteen what happened in WWII and what you guys did, for example, in the 70s helping topple Allende, I cannot help you.
You are dumb, mother er.
The fact they got harassed proves nothing. It proves there are bigots everywhere.
Your point was never proven. Because you don't have a point.
Reread my post. I said millions of Americans have views which are closer to mine.
How many votes did Kerry get? Was it in the millions? Do you get it now?
It makes no difference Bush won, because millions voted against him which means millions share, at least partially, my views. I can't explain it more simpler than that. Hope it is simple enough for your thick skull to get it.
Last edited by smeagol; 09-16-2005 at 11:44 PM.
Again, the same pattern. If you don't think everything the US does is right, you hate America, or you are misguided.
Damn, the arrogance . . .
Dude ChIraq is the most corrupt official in the Western World...
He started out as a communist and only dropped his affiliation with communism so he could gain entry to Harvard...
The only reason he isn't in jail in his own country is because he hold political office and is therefore immune from prosecution....
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclop...e-Paris-regionJacques Chirac was mayor of Paris from 1977 to 1995 and has been named in several cases of alleged corruption and abuse, some of which have already led to felony convictions. Jacques René Chirac (born 29 November 1932) is a French politician. ... 1977 was a common year starting on Saturday (the link is to a full 1977 calendar). ... 1995 was a common year starting on Sunday of the Gregorian calendar. ...
Jacques Chirac, as current president of France, enjoys virtual immunity from prosecution for acts preceding his tenure as president, following from decision 98-408 DC (http://www.conseil-cons utionnel.f...8408/index.htm) of the Cons utional Council on January 22, 1999. This decision itself was highly controversial: the council was consulted on the treaty establishing the International Criminal Court, not about the status of the president with respect to the national criminal justice system. At the time, the president of the council was Roland Dumas, who later had to retire from his functions because of his implication in the Elf Aquitaine scandal [1] (http://www.lexpress.fr/Express/Info/...asp?ida=420342). The President of France, known officially as the President of the Republic (Président de la République in French), is Frances elected Head of State. ... The Cons utional Council was established by the Cons ution of the Fifth Republic on 4 October 1958. ... January 22 is the 22nd day of the year in the Gregorian Calendar. ... 1999 is a common year starting on Friday of the Common Era, and was designated the International Year of Older Persons by the United Nations. ... The International Criminal Court (ICC) was established in 2002 as a permanent tribunal to prosecute individuals for genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes, as defined by several international agreements, most prominently the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. ... Roland Dumas (born August 23, 1922) is a French Socialist politician who served as Foreign Minister under Laurent Fabius from 1984 to 1986, and again under Michel Rocard, Edith Cresson, and Pierre Bérégovoy from 1988 to 1993. ... Elf Aquitaine is a former French oil company merged with TotalFina to form TotalFinaElf. ...
Jacques Chirac refused to testify before investigating magistrate Éric Halphen, arguing that this would be incompatible with his presidential functions. This article is about the inquisitorial system for organizing court proceedings. ...
On October 10, 2001, the Court of Cassation ruled that, while the president cannot be prosecuted by normal judicial means during his mandate, such an impossibility suspends the delays of prescription (statute of limitation). If Jacques Chirac does not run for office again in 2007 or is not re-elected, he may then be prosecuted on the several affairs he is involved in. This might explain why in 2003 some in the presidential entourage floated around the idea of Chirac running for a third term. October 10 is the 283rd day of the year (284th in Leap years). ...
More on France and recent anti-semitism:
http://www.nysun.com/article/20144
Germany:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/S...&contrassID=19
Hey...it anti-semitism isn't a growing problem over there then why is there mass emmigration by the Jewish community?
Why is it an issue in the German elections?
Link to a French Diplomat referring to Israel as a ty little country:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1721172.stm
Links to all the recent anti-semitic attacks in France...
http://www.ambafrance-us.org/news/st...02/antisem.asp
It might help if France stopped portraying Yasser Arafat as a hero and Hezbollah as a political party.
And Germany is not much different.
Oh and by the way smeagol...
Those kids that got attacked at Auschwitz that you keep mentioning...
Their attackers were French.
Allende was a socialist...I want you to show me one socialist or communist leader that hasn't wound up a brutal dictator....
Just one is all I ask...
And just realize that Hitler had principals of socialism in his political platform as well....
me...it's a ed up ideology that doesn't ing work, the ideology openly admits that it cannot survive unless everyone is socialist. How many ing examples do you need.
Let me know when you grow up and realize what kind of world it is that we live in....I'd like buy the world a coke and teach them to sing too...only after all the assholes have been blown off the planet.
So?
Even if they were from Argentina, it is unacceptable and the attacks should never have happened, and whoever does not condemn them (the attacks) and instead goes out of their way to try to rationalize them (and has a big discussion with everybody on how the blame is not on the attackers but on the attacked), is and idiot.
Plain and simple.
Um...if I drop into the Pakistan Afghan border reigion unescorted, and start waiving an American flag, and get beheaded, feel free to call me stupid...MMMKay? That doesn't mean I won't sympathize with the victim...but I will consider it a stupid act anyway.
And way to ignore all of the other factual evidence I posted...maybe it would help if I posted about the courts ruling that France's state sponsored media was found guilty of anti-semitism.
whott, are you saying that the USA is not now, nor has never been, racist nor anti-semitic nor slave-owinig nor genocidal, therefore you can piss on all other countries with your "facts".
Can't claim that...
Can claim that...at least from an ins utional POV...America has more jews than Israel.nor anti-semitic
:Rolleyes, who hasn't?nor slave-owinig
Never...nor genocidal,
You leave out the fact that America has gone to war with itself to correct those issues...therefore you can piss on all other countries with your "facts".
And BTW..you do realize that most of those embarrasing causes the Democrats were on the wrong side of don't you?
America's cleansing of the continent of Native Americans was purely genocidal.
"to correct those issues..."
and 150 years later, the issue of racism is still current. Your dear Repub did all helping the poor for 5 years until NO.
You err, again, in associating me with the Democrats (and liberals).
Please just shut the up....
#1. The term genocide didn't even exist at the time.
#2. You are talking a 400 year period...only a 100 of which the country of America was even in existence.
#3. The majority of the killing was unintentional spread of disease.
#4. The warfare was was primarily motivated by land and material gain. Not extermination. Common practices among the Native Americans themselves..albeit with different concepts of land ownership and material wealth.
#5. The Native Americans themselves could often be accused of similar cultural genocide...particularly the Iriquois and Aztecs.
#6. When a technologically advanced culture encounters one of lesser advancement the lesser advanced one either adapts, or it ceases to exist. Except in rare case. You may not like it...but it's the way life, all life, works, and has since time began. The day this country ceases to pursude techonological advancement...it too will lose a battle to a more advanced culture.
#7. The Native Americans were every bit, if not more brutal than the Colonists...the difference was in technological advancement.
#8. Your buddies the French pitted many of those Native Americans against the Early colonists...not to mention engaging in a few acts of Genocide themselves.
#9. The combined deaths in 400 years of North American Native American warfare isn't even a 10th of what the Spaniards did in just a few years.
#10. It was more of European thing than an American thing...ditto slavery.
Meanwhile...you have make excuses for the French acts of Genocide in Algeria and Rwanda...just to name a couple...since it became an international crime.
Are you going to whine about the loss of American culture as well? I mean we don't ride horse anymore... ...self inflicted cultural genocide.
Now STFU and go curl up your copy of Dances with Wolves.
Oh get ed...all races are racists and the Republicans have less of history of racism than the Democrats do...it's not even ing close.and 150 years later, the issue of racism is still current.
You are the ultimate bigot...you think they are incapable of assimilating into a society and will never be more than poor folk incapable of taking advantage of an opportunity...I find this ing bigotry prevalent amongst liberals.Your dear Repub did all helping the poor for 5 years until NO.
You err, again, in associating me with the Democrats (and liberals).
And I am not a Republican either...unless the alternative is being pro-terrorist...
I await your next post, where you accuse us of genocide against the Nazi and Islamocfascist cultures... ing tool.
Last edited by whottt; 09-18-2005 at 01:42 AM.
Hey Smeagol....this is the poster Schroder was using in his election campaign...
Oh yeah...he loves us...I mean nothing says friendship like putting dead soldiers on your election posters...
I think I am going to use pictures of dead Argentinians from the Falklands war if I ever run for office...it ought to make the Argentines love me again and prove I am only looking out for Argentinas best interests...right smeagol? Don't be a hater...
In all fairness to our great friend mister Schroder though...Germans using dead soldiers on posters is kind compared to what is happening in France to the graves of the US and UK soldiers that liberated them.
And I am paranoid. ...those two asshats rode anti-Americanism to re-election...acccused us of going to Iraq for Oil...when they were totally on the take from Saddam...we're never going to recoup our losses from Iraq..and if we wanted Oil we could have lined up for the subsidized Oil from Saddam just like they did...
Another great analogy from you happy neighbor, whottt. Jews waving their flag in Auschwitz vs American's waving their's in Afghanistan.
So your friendship with a particular country depends on what one politician says. Lets hate Germany because of Schroeder or France because of Chiraq, or the UK because of Blair.Hey Smeagol....this is the poster Schroder was using in his election campaign...
Oh yeah...he loves us...I mean nothing says friendship like putting dead soldiers on your election posters...
I think I am going to use pictures of dead Argentinians from the Falklands war if I ever run for office...it ought to make the Argentines love me again and prove I am only looking out for Argentinas best interests...right smeagol? Don't be a hater...
In all fairness to our great friend mister Schroder though...Germans using dead soldiers on posters is kind compared to what is happening in France to the graves of the US and UK soldiers that liberated them.
And I am paranoid. ...those two asshats rode anti-Americanism to re-election...acccused us of going to Iraq for Oil...when they were totally on the take from Saddam...we're never going to recoup our losses from Iraq..and if we wanted Oil we could have lined up for the subsidized Oil from Saddam just like they did...
But then you get ticked off because people from other countries hate America becuase of the image Bush projects.
Perfect way to try to get along with the rest of the World.
Ohh, I forget that's the line you like to use against Argentines. Because of one idiot president/dictator we had in the 40s and 50s, and his policy towards the Nazis, you have labeled all of us Nazis.
Brilliant!
Last edited by smeagol; 09-18-2005 at 10:16 AM.
How do your postings help you re ed POV?
There's media in the US advocating some stupid too.
Last edited by smeagol; 09-18-2005 at 10:14 AM.
When it's the ing leader of the country and a hostile ideology is running the country? Yes....did you miss the cold war and WWII or something?
Oh wait...you're an Argentinian...I forgot you guys sat those two out.
You can't be friendly with that country at an international level when they are not your friends...how hard is this to figure out?
I don't hate all Germans but I wouldn't have wanted to listen to Hitler on what's best for America...damn, smeagol...that's kind of clueless.
Well...apart from the fact that those countries more than any other two of our recent allies are largely anti-American in their populations...Yes...But I already said I didn't hate them...I just think it's stupid to trust our well being to them...and this isn't about the people themselves..the people are not making the decisions in those countries...Lets hate Germany because of Schroeder or France because of Chiraq,
So yes...when you two leaders who are clearly hostile...I think you are an idiot if you look at them as being friends who are only looking out for our best interests...you are totally and completely naive.
Blais is a true friend to this country...and the cultural exchange between the UK and America is total and thorough...we may not be a part of the common wealth but Blair crossed party lines to come to America in a time of need like a mother runs to defend her child...or the UK because of Blair.
And yes...unlike France and Germany I understand the concept of gra ude and the Brits have my undying gra ude...it is a sense of gra ude that will benefit all future leaders of this country...whether they be hostile or not.
If the UK ever comes under attack and America drags it's feet going to her aid...I am going to be infuriated.
And most of that gra ude is because of post 9/11 activity...I don't you understand the mindset of most Americans in the post 9/11 world...It was our greatest hour of need...and those that took potshots will never be forgiven..likewise those that proved themselves as true friend earned eternal gra ude.
France and Germany OTOH.... them. Yeah they aren't all bad...but I don't really give a ...we've done a of a lot more for them than they ever have for us...or we have done for the UK...and all they can do is on us and stab us in the back in our hour of need...you may not see it that..but then you aren't an American...
Bush wasn't anti-France and Germany....they were however anti-American and both of those leaders rode that hatred into a second term...But then you get ticked off because people from other countries hate America becuase of the image Bush projects.
You know what? the rest of the world...we've been floating their economies and defending them with our blood...cleaning up their messes and doing their dirty work for most of the last century...no one ever pays us back, no one ever says thanks...all they do is sit on their goddamn asses acting like we owe them something.Perfect way to try to get along with the rest of the World.
Then when we get attacked and get the brunt of a nihilistic idelology declaring war on us, mostly for the actions of European colonialist practices...which we helped end in the first place...eveyrone hangs us out to dry...celebrates the worst hour in our history...and runs and hides from the bad guys.
It doesn't take any balls to criticize this country or speak out against it...it takes balls to stand up to some opressive s that will behead you if you aren't a religious bigot.
No... the rest of the world...It'll be over my dead body before we ever come to the aid of France militarily again.
No the world.
No...but if you want to discuss national historys, let's discuss them...I have definitely noticed that most American critics have a re ed knowledge of this history and very little or none of that of their own countries...Ohh, I forget that's the line you like to use against Argentines. Because of one idiot president/dictator we had in the 40s and 50s, and his policy towards the Nazis, you have labeled all of us Nazis.
I love how countries that are 90% white, hispanic, black, Arab...are always sticking the racist tag on us for instance...
Whateve smeagol...Brilliant!
I didn't start ripping other countries until I got sick of mine getting ripped mercilessly, Manu...let's criticize...
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