This forum's stupid logic

[daslicer]

The work of Timvp, Bruno and others who would make well-thought out articulate posts of publishable quality is what attracted me to this site in 2008. Living far away from SA, I could get links to all the relevant articles on the Spurs in one place and often follow interesting discussions. It was the best place to come for an instant update.

I think it was after the loss to the Heat in 2013 that this place began to suffer a bit, as many of the old posters left. Then came a few posters (very few really, but they may have alts), who I truly believe are not Spurs fans but fans of other teams who have succeeded in dividing this forum into various groups. I don't think I'd ever heard the term "player fan" until this year, and I wonder if those who introduced it were not themselves trying to create dissension. The incessant Tony bashing shows a mob mentality, with the leaders doing it as loudly as possible and others meekly following just to fit in. Other posters have tried to turn Kawhi, who definitely deserves mammoth praise, into practically the sole reason we're winning, and advocated this in so many ridiculous threads, posted at such a rapid frequency, that a backlash against Leonard has developed, and now an anti-Kawhi contingent roams these boards. Throw in a few spoiled fans who want to fire Pop, despite 20 years of unparalleled success, or bench player X every time we lose a game, and discussion has been replaced by a primitive sort of tribalism. It is rather sad that these provocateurs whose agenda is clearly to create rifts among the Spurs faithful have succeeded.

Given how successful the Spurs have been for decades, if this is the high life, I'd hate to see what these sames fans would do if they were supporters of the Timberwolves, or Hornets, or Knicks or even the Clippers until recently. My guess is very little, as no one would care. But making fans of the most successful franchise of all major American sports the past 20 years, one really rivaled only by the Patriots, feel miserable and hate their own players is quite a trolling accomplishment. Congratulations. I hope it gives your life meaning.

I have always suspected majority of these trolls to be laker fans since they have turned this place into the spurs version of Lakersground. This place suffers from all the same issues that makes lakersground crap its eerily too similar. Just replace Kawhi's name with Kobe and you will see the similarities.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

TP did much better than Kawhi against the Wizards. Kawhi chucked and choked. 23 points on 22 shots? I would argue that Manu and Tony were the best Spurs on the court, while Kawhi and (especially) LMA were responsible for the loss.
TheGreatYacht ducks hater

[TheDoctor]

The two guys that did the most to get us the win vs the Wizards are the two guys everyone is trying to blame for the loss.

There were 44 minutes of basketball in which there were plenty of mistakes made by many different players. This was a team loss, they were out of rhythm the whole game. The only reason we were in position to win was because of Kawhi and Tony.

Is evident you're taking this "KAWHI/parker" thing very seriously.

[RD2191]

Is evident you're taking this "KAWHI/parker" thing very seriously.

OP is a got.

[RD2191]

BillMC is an OG though. Dude is good people.

[Dex]

The work of Timvp, Bruno and others who would make well-thought out articulate posts of publishable quality is what attracted me to this site in 2008. Living far away from SA, I could get links to all the relevant articles on the Spurs in one place and often follow interesting discussions. It was the best place to come for an instant update.

I think it was after the loss to the Heat in 2013 that this place began to suffer a bit, as many of the old posters left. Then came a few posters (very few really, but they may have alts), who I truly believe are not Spurs fans but fans of other teams who have succeeded in dividing this forum into various groups. I don't think I'd ever heard the term "player fan" until this year, and I wonder if those who introduced it were not themselves trying to create dissension. The incessant Tony bashing shows a mob mentality, with the leaders doing it as loudly as possible and others meekly following just to fit in. Other posters have tried to turn Kawhi, who definitely deserves mammoth praise, into practically the sole reason we're winning, and advocated this in so many ridiculous threads, posted at such a rapid frequency, that a backlash against Leonard has developed, and now an anti-Kawhi contingent roams these boards. Throw in a few spoiled fans who want to fire Pop, despite 20 years of unparalleled success, or bench player X every time we lose a game, and discussion has been replaced by a primitive sort of tribalism. It is rather sad that these provocateurs whose agenda is clearly to create rifts among the Spurs faithful have succeeded.

Given how successful the Spurs have been for decades, if this is the high life, I'd hate to see what these sames fans would do if they were supporters of the Timberwolves, or Hornets, or Knicks or even the Clippers until recently. My guess is very little, as no one would care. But making fans of the most successful franchise of all major American sports the past 20 years, one really rivaled only by the Patriots, feel miserable and hate their own players is quite a trolling accomplishment. Congratulations. I hope it gives your life meaning.

[SAGirl]

The two guys that did the most to get us the win vs the Wizards are the two guys everyone is trying to blame for the loss.

There were 44 minutes of basketball in which there were plenty of mistakes made by many different players. This was a team loss, they were out of rhythm the whole game. The only reason we were in position to win was because of Kawhi and Tony.

agree with you. the trolling in this forum just drowns out the sensible fans.

[FkLA]

-Rique had like 4 or 6 points going into the 4th Qtr
-coincidentally, the Spurs also had a lead
-4th Qtr arrives and Rique decides it's time to engage hero mode
-per usual, it backfires and the lead is lost
-Kawhi who has been frozen out all 4th Qtr despite 18 first half points, is asked to bail the team out
-team loses and Rique s want to blame Kawhi

In summary, all Rique had to do was keep playing his Prigioni role and the Spurs win. That French mother er loves to play hero though so he wasn't having none of that.

[ChumpDumper]

lol frozen out.

[TheGreatYacht]

TP did much better than Kawhi against the Wizards. Kawhi chucked and choked. 23 points on 22 shots? I would argue that Manu and Tony were the best Spurs on the court, while Kawhi was responsible for the loss.
TheGreatYacht ducks hater

[Mr Bones]

The work of Timvp, Bruno and others who would make well-thought out articulate posts of publishable quality is what attracted me to this site in 2008. Living far away from SA, I could get links to all the relevant articles on the Spurs in one place and often follow interesting discussions. It was the best place to come for an instant update.

I think it was after the loss to the Heat in 2013 that this place began to suffer a bit, as many of the old posters left. Then came a few posters (very few really, but they may have alts), who I truly believe are not Spurs fans but fans of other teams who have succeeded in dividing this forum into various groups. I don't think I'd ever heard the term "player fan" until this year, and I wonder if those who introduced it were not themselves trying to create dissension. The incessant Tony bashing shows a mob mentality, with the leaders doing it as loudly as possible and others meekly following just to fit in. Other posters have tried to turn Kawhi, who definitely deserves mammoth praise, into practically the sole reason we're winning, and advocated this in so many ridiculous threads, posted at such a rapid frequency, that a backlash against Leonard has developed, and now an anti-Kawhi contingent roams these boards. Throw in a few spoiled fans who want to fire Pop, despite 20 years of unparalleled success, or bench player X every time we lose a game, and discussion has been replaced by a primitive sort of tribalism. It is rather sad that these provocateurs whose agenda is clearly to create rifts among the Spurs faithful have succeeded.

Given how successful the Spurs have been for decades, if this is the high life, I'd hate to see what these sames fans would do if they were supporters of the Timberwolves, or Hornets, or Knicks or even the Clippers until recently. My guess is very little, as no one would care. But making fans of the most successful franchise of all major American sports the past 20 years, one really rivaled only by the Patriots, feel miserable and hate their own players is quite a trolling accomplishment. Congratulations. I hope it gives your life meaning.

[RD2191]

-Rique had like 4 or 6 points going into the 4th Qtr
-coincidentally, the Spurs also had a lead
-4th Qtr arrives and Rique decides it's time to engage hero mode
-per usual, it backfires and the lead is lost
-Kawhi who has been frozen out all 4th Qtr despite 18 first half points, is asked to bail the team out
-team loses and Rique s want to blame Kawhi

In summary, all Rique had to do was keep playing his Prigioni role and the Spurs win. That French mother er loves to play hero though so he wasn't having none of that.

Pretty much.

[kawhidoyoudothistome]

Wasn't Butler doing well scoring-wise? Why was he taken out?

[RD2191]

Wasn't Butler doing well scoring-wise? Why was he taken out?

Because logic that's why.

[BatManu20]

ST still has a lot of good takes, but this forum ain't what it used to be.

^

[RD2191]

Ban nolyfescrub's 87 alts and this place would really clean up.

[Kawhitstorm]

Porker was no where to be found in the 1st quarter despite being the point guard of the team. Kawhi carries the team in the 1st half then Enirique decided it was his turn to eat & froze out Kawhi in the 2nd half.

[TXstbobcat]

The work of Timvp, Bruno and others who would make well-thought out articulate posts of publishable quality is what attracted me to this site in 2008. Living far away from SA, I could get links to all the relevant articles on the Spurs in one place and often follow interesting discussions. It was the best place to come for an instant update.

I think it was after the loss to the Heat in 2013 that this place began to suffer a bit, as many of the old posters left. Then came a few posters (very few really, but they may have alts), who I truly believe are not Spurs fans but fans of other teams who have succeeded in dividing this forum into various groups. I don't think I'd ever heard the term "player fan" until this year, and I wonder if those who introduced it were not themselves trying to create dissension. The incessant Tony bashing shows a mob mentality, with the leaders doing it as loudly as possible and others meekly following just to fit in. Other posters have tried to turn Kawhi, who definitely deserves mammoth praise, into practically the sole reason we're winning, and advocated this in so many ridiculous threads, posted at such a rapid frequency, that a backlash against Leonard has developed, and now an anti-Kawhi contingent roams these boards. Throw in a few spoiled fans who want to fire Pop, despite 20 years of unparalleled success, or bench player X every time we lose a game, and discussion has been replaced by a primitive sort of tribalism. It is rather sad that these provocateurs whose agenda is clearly to create rifts among the Spurs faithful have succeeded.

Given how successful the Spurs have been for decades, if this is the high life, I'd hate to see what these sames fans would do if they were supporters of the Timberwolves, or Hornets, or Knicks or even the Clippers until recently. My guess is very little, as no one would care. But making fans of the most successful franchise of all major American sports the past 20 years, one really rivaled only by the Patriots, feel miserable and hate their own players is quite a trolling accomplishment. Congratulations. I hope it gives your life meaning.

I agree with you. A lot of the really great posters are gone. Fortunately there are still some great posters still here with posts that I enjoy reading. As a fan that moved across the country from Texas, this board makes me feel a little closer to home.

[Cry Havoc]

The work of Timvp, Bruno and others who would make well-thought out articulate posts of publishable quality is what attracted me to this site in 2008. Living far away from SA, I could get links to all the relevant articles on the Spurs in one place and often follow interesting discussions. It was the best place to come for an instant update.

I think it was after the loss to the Heat in 2013 that this place began to suffer a bit, as many of the old posters left. Then came a few posters (very few really, but they may have alts), who I truly believe are not Spurs fans but fans of other teams who have succeeded in dividing this forum into various groups. I don't think I'd ever heard the term "player fan" until this year, and I wonder if those who introduced it were not themselves trying to create dissension. The incessant Tony bashing shows a mob mentality, with the leaders doing it as loudly as possible and others meekly following just to fit in. Other posters have tried to turn Kawhi, who definitely deserves mammoth praise, into practically the sole reason we're winning, and advocated this in so many ridiculous threads, posted at such a rapid frequency, that a backlash against Leonard has developed, and now an anti-Kawhi contingent roams these boards. Throw in a few spoiled fans who want to fire Pop, despite 20 years of unparalleled success, or bench player X every time we lose a game, and discussion has been replaced by a primitive sort of tribalism. It is rather sad that these provocateurs whose agenda is clearly to create rifts among the Spurs faithful have succeeded.

Given how successful the Spurs have been for decades, if this is the high life, I'd hate to see what these sames fans would do if they were supporters of the Timberwolves, or Hornets, or Knicks or even the Clippers until recently. My guess is very little, as no one would care. But making fans of the most successful franchise of all major American sports the past 20 years, one really rivaled only by the Patriots, feel miserable and hate their own players is quite a trolling accomplishment. Congratulations. I hope it gives your life meaning.

I personally think the turning point was before that. It was when they unshackled the spurs forum. Downstairs used to be the place you went to talk trash and be an asshole. Up here, you had to bring some takes or get shut down. That was the PERFECT system because it still allowed for histrionics but they were contained.

But then something happened, the admins stopped doing anything, and honorable posters like Duncan228 left because they got sick of the junior high bull that took the place of actual basketball discussion. There was always silly happening (bravatars, anyone?) but most of it was goofy, in good humor, and somewhat restrained. That's been replaced in no small part by attention s who spam the forum incessantly and try to form crews to protect their own precious ego, because being anonymous on a message board isn't enough to sate their insecurities.

As soon as the older posters who brought quality content dropped off, it started a feedback spiral. Sad, really.

[Clipper Nation]

-Rique had like 4 or 6 points going into the 4th Qtr
-coincidentally, the Spurs also had a lead
-4th Qtr arrives and Rique decides it's time to engage hero mode
-per usual, it backfires and the lead is lost
-Kawhi who has been frozen out all 4th Qtr despite 18 first half points, is asked to bail the team out
-team loses and Rique s want to blame Kawhi

In summary, all Rique had to do was keep playing his Prigioni role and the Spurs win. That French mother er loves to play hero though so he wasn't having none of that.

[HarlemHeat37]

what's funny is the inability of some of you to ignore the same 5 or 6 anti-Kawhi posters that repeat the same illogical, uninformed, vanilla in every thread, tbh..it's pretty easy to overlook their posts and threads, not missing out on much..

This thread is silly..there were dozens of takes and discussions around the forum about the Wizards game, yet OP is focusing on a few threads that were created by 3 or 4 terrible posters(some of those posters have been running the same shtick since 2013, btw, they just switched from Manu to Kawhi, but they're too irrelevant to notice)..this isn't anything new, btw, this forum has always had terrible meltdown threads after losses, it's a staple of SpursTalk..

[spurtech09]

ST still has a lot of good takes, but this forum ain't what it used to be.

true

[HarlemHeat37]

Bruno was huge on taking subtle shots at Ginobili, btw..he did the same thing that some of your current most hated posters do, he just did it less overtly..

Also, Cry Havoc mentioning Duncan228 is strange..IIRC, she was ran off the forum by some of SpursTalk's original members, including timvp's personal friends, because she was voted onto the "All-SpursTalk" teams and they thought it was a ridiculous selection..

[RD2191]

In before Cryhavoc's girlfriend.

[Kawhitstorm]

In before Cryhavoc's girlfriend.