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Career league average player who made open shots off of Shaq double teams. Missed an open GW against the Spurs that would've led to a 4peat.
Easy to say that now. The tumult is over. He's already loitered an arc, exhibited the patience of a rock.
"Nice." tee, hee.
Career league average player who made open shots off of Shaq double teams. Missed an open GW against the Spurs that would've led to a 4peat.
It took most of you two years to become informed about how mediocre Cleveland was and the true state of the cavaliers. Smh.
Some of you already sunk low enough to root for that cluster of a team, Cleveland. I couldn't even stomach you guys backing method after 12 13 14. They were essentially miami heat west with more of a choking mentality.
Trading lebron would be the best thing Cleveland could ever do ever. Turnover his value before he takes a dive.
I don't think people have thought about the teams and level of compe ion Cleveland had to face in the East to get here. They looked great playing against Eastern conference teams, so IMO it was pretty hard to gauge how good they really were. Before the playoffs started, I thought any of the top 4 West teams could/would have a chance to beat them. Earlier in the playoffs I kind of changed my mind as I thought they were playing awesome and that they had a real chance to win it, but then I kind of had to remind myself who they were doing it against.
Yes because everybody should worship the Warriors.
On topic, how is trading love going to change any damn thing. They'll still need to build new plays aND gain chemistry yet again. KeVin love isn't a major asset and has awful value compared to what it was in Minnesota. There is no saving Cleveland.
And that's the problem. The denial. Im not asking anyone lick their ing toes. Im asking you most of stop being delusional bags. You were one the various ty posters saying the warriors were lucky, exposed, etc. On the basis of blind faith. While I sat here looking at
at the advanced stats every other week seeing what makes golden state elite; comparing and contrasting stats, players and teams.
I can handle when. Legitimate teams with. Like the pistons in, the mavericks, the spurs and warriors.
This forum majority members as well as sports forums in general are scared less of stats or mathematics in general. After all, the US has become terrible in the field and engineering; Michio Kaku.
Bad defense notwithstanding, Kyrie does so much more for CLE than Love does, especially the way that they use Love (aka as a rich man's Matt Bonner).
Actually that's not true I was one of the few that gave credit to the Warriors last summer for winning it all and did say they were legit. Dig up all my old posts about the Warriors from the fall of 2014 up until now and you will see I acknowledged them as a great team. Seriously bump a thread where I said they were a fluke team. You wouldn't be able to do so because I never said they were a fluke. Basically in your eyes if people are not sucking the Warriors then they are not acknowledging them as a legit team. You are definitely what I call a certified crazy person.
It's hard to imagine him wanting to stay if they lose this series (I imagine they will). He had to endure being the scapegoat for the shortcomings. I think they will move him. Probably while they still can get some pieces for him. I wonder though, are there going to be any willing trade partners for how much his contract is? It is also a caveat that he resides in the well-do ented Eastern Conference. So it may behoove both parties to give it a go w/ new pieces around the Big 3 of Cleveland. But, it may all depend on what happens with the remainder of the season.
Which is fine. The thing about Love is that, IMO, he has pretty much gotten everything out of his athletic ability already. To a certain extent he's an overachiever. Kyrie on the other hand still hasn't gotten everything out of his own athletic ability. I mean, there is really no reason why Kyrie can't be a better defensive player than he is.
Another thing about Love is he has some chronic physical issues- his back, namely. That isn't going to go away. Kyrie has been hurt a lot but he doesn't really have recurring injuries in any one place.
Irving plays a different brand, a different method of basketball according to the importance of the game. It's maddening and frustrating. There is no rhyme or reason to this habit.
Cleveland is doing just fine. So what they lose, they played as many games as the champion and sold as many tickets (assuming they get swept). All is good in Gilbertland. Rings are fan candy.
What's the point of making any changes with this roster when they just won an NBA le? stay put and add some pieces and defend your championship.
They were down 0-2 to the Warriors I believe when this topic came up. Always funny to bump an old thread where everyone was wrong.
They should still trade him, tbh, it's their only opportunity to improve a flawed roster..
Nah he helps with rebounding and spacing. Always good to have a power forward that is a threat from the outside. Especially on teams with Lebron James. He was huge in game 7.
He was pretty useless for most of the playoffs, tbh..I'm a fan of Love, but his weight loss has really hurt his rebounding ability, and he doesn't fit well in his Cleveland role..
I don't think they will trade him, since they just won the le, but they could use much better role players around Lebron and Irving(only Tristan Thompson and Jefferson showed up, for the most part)..
It's a flawed roster that just won an NBA championship.
Sure, but they were a Green suspension away from an embarrassing Finals loss..
Their roster is very flawed, can't keep relying on super-human Lebron performances as he continues to age and rack up the mileage..
meh, lebron literally won it by himself with some help on rebounding and a massive choke by draymond. Not really much of a win, sometimes the best team just doesn't win.
kyrie's stock is high tbh...
if i'm the FO i'd find out what a team would give up to get him.
Wade incoming?
Who cares how they won? Then won. I would not advocate breaking up a championship team.
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