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    Yes you can.

    You can lose games... When you have players that hide and get no stats when put in a difficult position.

    You can lose Many games when you don't have a pg.
    The first stat you go to is W//L.


    When Parker actually plays or puts minutes on the court, Spurs are -8 offensively/ per 100 possessions and +20 defensively/ per 100 possessions. Do you know what that means?

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    When Parker actually plays or puts minutes on the court, Spurs are -8 offensively/ per 100 possessions and +20 defensively/ per 100 possessions. Do you know what that means?

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    I found it funny people thought he was the biggest reason for our struggles.

    Green returning paid immediate dividends, and I truly think once TP returns he'll benefit from Green's return on both ends.

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    I found it funny people thought he was the biggest reason for our struggles.

    Green returning paid immediate dividends, and I truly think once TP returns he'll benefit from Green's return on both ends.
    Love these posters who ignore facts and hold on to any ounce of belief they can ( delusional or not).

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    When Parker actually plays or puts minutes on the court, Spurs are -8 offensively/ per 100 possessions and +20 defensively/ per 100 possessions. Do you know what that means?
    Apparently it means that you win more games. Something PATFO, the rest of the league, NBA analysts, actual Spurs fans, and everyone except for the Krew understands.

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    they are 7 new players o
    also tp has to adjust to the 7 new players and everyone with them
    the head of the snake is missing and it makes leonard and others do more

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    Apparently it means that you win more games. Something PATFO, the rest of the league, NBA analysts, actual Spurs fans, and everyone except for the Krew understands.
    Leave it one of the village idiots to explain..

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    Love these posters who ignore facts and hold on to any ounce of belief they can ( delusional or not).
    I respect your opinions and posts bro, I just think the stats you are using are too small of a sample size. The guy has played 4 games. No one can draw any real conclusions of any kind from a player after 4 games.

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    I respect your opinions and posts bro, I just think the stats you are using are too small of a sample size. The guy has played 4 games. No one can draw any real conclusions of any kind from a player after 4 games.
    Wasn't the post about the Spurs being 3-0 when Parker suits up?

    I'm using facts in that sample size to prove he's been detrimental when he plays, even if they win despite that being the reality.

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    Wasn't the post about the Spurs being 3-0 when Parker suits up?

    I'm using facts in that sample size to prove he's been detrimental when he plays, even if they win despite that being the reality.
    Yea, I just know I've seen you use those stats in other places too on here. So yea, it'd be foolish to think TP is the sole reason they won those games, but it's also foolish to think he is the reason for them losing.

    Him being detrimental while he's in is still too soon to really say. He was playing with Anderson next to him and I think Simmons once. It's just too early to look at some of these stats IMO.

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    I am not a denier of facts/science or even stats BUT stats rarely tell the whole story. There were many games back in the day when going by +/- Matt Bonner was the best Spur in a game when anyone with a drop of sense knows that that is patently impossible. The eye test can be subjective but stats can be just as misleading at times. Per real plus minus on ESPN last year Nikola Jokic and Kevin Love were among the top 10 players in the league last year. I refuse to believe that's the case no matter what the stats say. Stats alone would have you believe that Ricky Rubio is a Gary Payton "the glove" level defender at PG, I have a hard time believing that one too. Parker's value to me is this are the Spurs better or worse with a healthy Parker in the game. Trolling threads would say worse with him in, but from what I am seeing right now every bit of continuity the Spurs can muster would be greatly appreciated while trying to integrate so many new players.

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    Leave it one of the village idiots to explain..
    For real. Quit explaining got. You're embarrassing yourself

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    When Parker actually plays or puts minutes on the court, Spurs are -8 offensively/ per 100 possessions and +20 defensively/ per 100 possessions. Do you know what that means?
    Have you watched our recent games?

    Who do you like at point?

    Do you have stats on the actual amount of time a player has ball in hand per turnover? Do you?
    There is a reason Danny Green, for instance, does not handle the ball for more than a second on a possession. You don't get it.
    Last edited by pgardn; 11-10-2016 at 04:43 PM.

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    As poorly as Parker has played the past few seasons, he's still certainly a better option than the backup PG the Spurs have been playing during his absence, tbh..

    Parker's production could be replaced by any competent NBA-level backup PG, but the Spurs don't currently have an alternative that qualifies(Lapro hasn't shown that he's an NBA-caliber player, yet)..

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    5-1 with Parker
    1-2 without

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    Also a dude that is struggling without him is Aldridge tbh, Parker just spoon feed him on offense pretty much all the time
    Yeah...That's the reason for why LMA's struggling...

    Parker played tonight and LMA was still poor offensively.

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    We ain't a lottery team anymore!

    Head of the snake

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    Do folks seriously think the last couple of losses had anything to do with Parker's absence?

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    Do folks seriously think the last couple of losses had anything to do with Parker's absence?
    I don't know, you said Argentina was struggling because Missi retired. Then they lost 0-3 to Brazil

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    I don't know, you said Argentina was struggling because Missi retired. Then they lost 0-3 to Brazil
    Losing to Brazil in Brazil is expected, tbh. Specially with a coach that should be retired.

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    Losing to Brazil in Brazil is expected, tbh. Specially with a coach that should be retired.
    No shame in losing to the second best player in the world (only behind Ronaldo), tbh

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    We ain't a lottery team anymore!

    Head of the snake
    It's no coincidence we got the win with MVParker playing through injury for the Veterans.

    TP9

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    It's no coincidence we got the win with MVParker playing through injury for the Veterans.

    TP9

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    Another game another win

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