Kawhi's offensive game is "antiquated."

[DMC]

I don't like the fact that Jordan-esque midpost/midrange play is obsolete in favor of the ty brand of basketball Harden, et al plays, but it is what it is. If you're a perimeter player, the game you need to have today is dribble-drive penetration combined with being an off-the-dribble threat from deep. Kawhi is just slightly above average in both areas.

The data has spoken. Shots from the post are about the worst shot in basketball now, and Kawhi takes the most and hardest shots from the post out of any NBA player.

Grim business.

UTSA thinks he's more of an offensive threat than Klay Thompson though, who can do both of what you mentioned.

[DMC]

I couldnt care less if the midrange is inefficient for the rest of the league. It isn't for Kawhi. One game doesnt change that. Would it be nice if he had all-world vision and plamaking like Harden? Sure but that doesn't diminish his greatness on offense.

*slurp*

[Keepin' it real]

His game wasn't antiquated vs. Houston.

[Chinook]

its impossible for fans to accept that kawhi had a bad game by his standards

He also had an objectively bad game. He scored 19 points on 28 possessions, a ppp of .68. That's horrible no matter who you are. Him shooting bad is one thing, but he kept shooting, completely ignoring other players. It felt exactly like the LAC series.

[140]

And how many les does harden ball have? I'll wait..

[RD2191]

Both Green and LMA outplayed Kawhi. The team lost the lead exactly because they went to Kawhi to close the first quarter. It didn't make any sense. Yes Parker didn't play well, but he only used six possessions, so who cares? Dedmon was fine. There's no way to spin this game other than Kawhiso ground the offense to a halt, and they never got back into rhythm.

So you're basing your entire theory off of 1 game? you're delusional man, I can't even take you seriously TBH

[Darius Bieber]

So you're basing your entire theory off of 1 game? you're delusional man, I can't even take you seriously TBH

My niqqa Rob going in hard tbh

[DMC]

its impossible for fans to accept that kawhi had a bad game by his standards

Sure he had a bad game by his standards, but against the GSW it is indistinguishable from being shut down. Had it happened against the Magic, easy to dismiss. KL did great against the Rockets, and he got tons of credit, so he has to get the blame when he s the bed.

[RD2191]

Yeah, your no defense playing PG had zero points tonight but that isn't a problem.

[FkLA]

UTSA thinks he's more of an offensive threat than Klay Thompson though, who can do both of what you mentioned.

Now you've just gone full re , fat boy.

[midnightpulp]

Kawhi fanboys are dumb.

This isn't a slight against Kawhi. The NBA has changed. Post play and midrange jumpshooting are deader than disco, proven time and time again by big data crunching to be the worst shots on the court. Why?

Obviously a 3 point attempt is worth 50% more than a two, and it's a shot that isn't 50% harder than a 2, so it makes more logical sense to shoot a 3 instead of 2. This forces teams to scramble on closeouts, opening up the floor for penetration. A post-player doesn't stress a defense like that.

"Double teams!"

Perimeter players are longer and quicker than ever before, so they can double off their man and still recover to a shooter. Compare this to penetration. Harden, Westbrook, Lebron will draw in an entire defense and send defenses scrambling to cover secondary action. Look here:



Penetration forces every defender out of position. Unless you're Shaq or prime Duncan drawing triple teams, post-play simply doesn't force as many defenders out of position as penetration.

I don't like it, but this is the modern NBA, and until the 3 point shot is made "harder," this trend will stay.

[Chinook]

So you're basing your entire theory off of 1 game? you're delusional man, I can't even take you seriously TBH

I've been saying this all year. But it's kinda pathetic that you can't admit that Kawhi took too many shots in this game, even when his supporting cast stepped up. His bad numbers are all on him/Pop. No amount of laughing can take that away.

[DMC]

Now you've just gone full retarre , fat boy.

Calling someone a re then needing to edit because you misspelled re .. that's re ed.

[ElNono]

That's not Kawhi's fault though. That's the way PATFO decided to build this team. They could've easily added another shooter instead of Joel Anthony, tbh...

EDIT: talking about the modern 3 point ball game

[Budkin]

He's surrounded by , you're acting as if he's surrounded by knock down shooters.

Rob on point per par

[RD2191]

I've been saying this all year. But it's kinda pathetic that you can't admit that Kawhi took too many shots in this game, even when his supporting cast stepped up. His bad numbers are all on him/Pop. No amount of laughing can take that away.

Kawhi had a game, I always call him out when he has a bad game. So what do you suggest we do? Who is going to run the offense? Our 2 assist starting PG? Danny "can't dribble without turning it over" green? this ain't 2014 son, we ain't running the beautiful game with the sad piles of starting on this team.

[DMC]

That's not Kawhi's fault though. That's the way PATFO decided to build this team. They could've easily added another shooter instead of Joel Anthony, tbh...

No one blamed Kawhi. It's not Parker's fault Pop keeps playing him even when he blows goats.

[ElNono]

No one blamed Kawhi. It's not Parker's fault Pop keeps playing him even when he blows goats.

Well, mid kinda did.

[spurraider21]

Sure he had a bad game by his standards, but against the GSW it is indistinguishable from being shut down. Had it happened against the Magic, easy to dismiss. KL did great against the Rockets, and he got tons of credit, so he has to get the blame when he s the bed.

be careful, you're starting to sound like a kawhi hating porker-

[RD2191]

I'm pretty sure if Pop thought we could run the beautiful game with this current roster he would've done it by now. He knows this teams strengths and weaknesses better than any of us, he's obviously doing the best that he can with the way this team is built.

[apalisoc_9]

No one blamed Kawhi. It's not Parker's fault Pop keeps playing him even when he blows goats.

You're an Idiot. Mills wasn't going to play 48 minutes.

funny, how all of a sudden the same Assholes admitting they we're wrong about Kawhi are the same people coming out of a woodwork because the team lost against the second best defensive team in the league and the best team in the world.

[DMC]

be careful, you're starting to sound like a kawhi hating porker-

Actually I am a Kawhi loving Porker hater. You gotta put the hot poker in the right asshole though.

[midnightpulp]

Well, mid kinda did.

How?

Show me the last time a post-centric offense won anything.

He's a great player, top 3 individual player in the league, but you can't build an offense around him. He needs a Westbrook. This isn't 1999-2010 anymore.

[Chinook]

Kawhi had a game, I always call him out when he has a bad game. So what do you suggest we do? Who is going to run the offense? Our 2 assist starting PG? Danny "can't dribble without turning it over" green? this ain't 2014 son, we ain't running the beautiful game with the sad piles of starting on this team.

I've already made my suggestion. Pop needs to run more plays. You don't need anyone to constantly freelance.

[FkLA]

Calling someone a re then needing to edit because you misspelled re .. that's re ed.

Simple typo. Those fat hands of yours are just ready to pounce today so you caught it before I could edit literally a few seconds later. Big deal.

Tell us some more about how Klaynus can penetrate and dish though, fat boy.