Holy this might be the best post in the history of the political forum.
Hahaha - that is SO funny (and true).
Regarding, OP - Ivanka and Jared's influence - liberal Democrats.
Holy this might be the best post in the history of the political forum.
The Democrats control absolutely nothing. The white house is republican. The house is Republican 241-194. The senate is Republican 53-48 counting Pence's vote. The supreme court is Republican 5-4. State governors are Republican 33-16. The DNC is in complete ing shambles, I don't know how you can argue otherwise.
And they're doing such a great job. The republicans.
A president who doesn't know his ass from his face.
A house who cant even pass their own bill
And a senate who's at 17% approval ratings
You can argue they're both in shambles. One because of their own making and the other for incompetency.
The GOP has a really solid supreme court majority that's likely to stand for years (and decades if Ginsburg dies in Trump's term). The GOP controls the states, which makes their house majority pretty stable due to state level gerrymandering. The democrats have to defend way more senate seats than the republicans do in 2018. The public hating our government is a plus for the GOP, it's their governing philosophy that government is bad.
You seriously don't think there was pressure on other Dems to not run against Clinton?
Just look at how many candidates the republicans had vs. the dems. There were 15+ republicans who tried running in the primary (some establishment and not establishment) while there were 4 Dems who ran in the primary, and all but Clinton were outsiders.
the progressive wing of the party was begging Warren to run but she said no because "she could make a better impact as a Senator"....then when Clinton needs a VP Warren suddenly stops caring about the impact she can make as a senator because she's clamoring to be Clintons VP. She was an obvious example of someone who would have had a good shot but was scared of pissing off the Clintons.
just face the reality that your beloved Clintons have taken over the Democratic Party and turned it into .
You're only proving his point. In spite of how ty the Republican Party is, it still controls the government at every level because the Clinton-led Democratic Party is so unappealing to most voters.
LOL I wasn't into politics before this year. So this sense that I was this Clinton supporter or a democrat diehard is hilarious.
I describe myself as a democrat because this party is the only party that aligns with the liberal social issues I most associate with.
Or maybe because the hate the redneck nation had for Obama was overwhelming. Nothing mobilizes them more like Obamacare did.
The dems lost something over a thousand seats under the Obama presidency. That ain't on Bill..or Hillary or anyone named Clinton.
horse . if you believed that, you would have voted for trump. its just a nice way to rationalize what's going on
You completely dodged the topic of other Dems not wanting to run against the Clintons.
I wouldn't expect someone who didn't pay attention to politics prior to this year to understand how much the Democratic Party has changed since slick Willy was first elected.
And Obama is definitely not the reason a bunch of life long Democrats in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin and Michigan who voted for Obama twice flipped to Trump in 2016 because the Clintons have always been free trade s who ship rust belt jobs overseas.
It's also far from a sure thing the Clintons are done. They're already pushing Chelsea Clinton for a NY seat in the house, and if Hilary runs again in 2020, she would still be the favorite to win the Democratic primary because of all the establishment support she'd get as well as the spear chucking chimpanzees in the dirty south who'd vote for a re ed beagle so long as its last name was Clinton.
can't believe people are still playing the narrative of clinton running again. it's not going to happen, and no, there's no way the establishment puts her up again after they got s acked in the elections
Who in the Democratic establishment is going to support someone else over Hilary? All of the key people are Clinton surrogates.
nobody has run after a loss since nixon. it's not going to happen. the DNC wants to win too, not just cozy up to friends. they thought they could do both in '16 and they failed.
God damnit, I'm trying to find a silver lining to this ed up presidency.
yeah, like i said
Sort of like saying someone should cut off my arm because of a bad rash. Trumps flopping pretty badly right out of the gate and the entire country will suffer for it.
I dont get the chemotherapy analogy myself.
So if Trump is it, he'll cure us. I dont think so. We'll be worst off and definitely not be better off in the long term under him.
[QUOTE=baseline bum;8959902]I mean how the can you defend Clinton, Reck, after seeing the smoldering mess she has left the DNC in? The DNC is completely powerless until in the absolute best case 2019 and it's because everyone in the party but Sanders was scared of her (and he's not really in the party). Even Biden wouldn't run against her. She was so unpopular and yet her loyalists just forced her through anyways like it was her turn to be president. Thank you Clinton you ing , you just gave us another 35 years of Scalia and probably another 35 on top of that if Uncle Thomas retires early like he said he has always planned to.[/
Actually Martin O' Malley was the first one who called out Hillary Clinton and the DNC for being unfairly biased towards her. Heck during the primaries he had to literally beg the moderator for time to get his point across.
We're cured of never seeing a Clinton sniff the White House again. In the long run that could absolutely be worth the short term damage of Trump. Trump isn't curing America of it's woes, nobody is. He cured America of the Clintons and their bull .
Clittery has signal that she wants to run for mayor in New York and there is the prospect of their daughter to run for something in the future.
The Clinton name is embedded in US politics for better or worse. Just like Trump is now. Unfortunately.
Chelsea isn't doing . Once mommy and daddy are dead, people will have no use for her. She's already being villified among the left for being exactly the spoiled en led rich white girl that she is.
You better hope old Ruthie can hang on. Colon cancer, pancreatic cancer, heart disease...reaper has been gunning for her for awhile.
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