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    Rock boulder head can anything he puts his mind into according to ST
    I know right. but dont make fun of the ST MVP.. did you see all those stats he had in 36 min?
    Fuk Lebomb James.
    Slomo gets the League MVP/All Star votes here.

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    Yeah.




    Said this awhile ago. Gay and Anderson should be the third and fourth centers. They have 7'3'' and 7'2.75 wingspans to Lauvergne's 6'9.5'', are about equal on the defensive glass, better rim protectors and significantly better overall players.

    Obviously, you don't leave them on an island to defend post up brutes like Nurkic (not like Lauvergne is capable of this either), but a guy like Davis, they should be fine. Blocking him out would be somewhat of a concern, but a worthwhile trade off for not playing Lauvergne.

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    Spurs scouting department just sucks. At Westchester, Jimmer played with a 7'2" center Jordan Bachynski. I felt he was a borderline NBA player. But he's way better than Joff. He had a nice post-up game, great passing, great finishing around the rim, good finesse, could make a mid range jumper to keep the defense honest; a bit like a mini Boban. I dunno what he's doing these days, but when I watch Joff out there I'm thinking to myself I know there was way better sh** out there. WTF
    He was highly recommended by TP..

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    It's certainly the most depressing team to watch since the year before Duncan was drafted.

    Their b-ball IQ is one of the worst in the NBA (never thought I'd say that about a Pop coached team) and there isn't anything on the roster that is worth cheering for or looking forward to this season. Last year's team wasn't great to watch as a whole but Kawhi was. Hopefully he can regain that form sooner than later. Next year may be our last year seeing him in a Spurs jersey.

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    It's certainly the most depressing team to watch since the year before Duncan was drafted.

    Their b-ball IQ is one of the worst in the NBA (never thought I'd say that about a Pop coached team) and there isn't anything on the roster that is worth cheering for or looking forward to this season. Last year's team wasn't great to watch as a whole but Kawhi was. Hopefully he can regain that form sooner than later. Next year may be our last year seeing him in a Spurs jersey.
    If he doesn't sign an extension this offseason or shows an inclination that he might not I think the Spurs trade him. They don't wanna risk losing him for nothing.

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    It's certainly the most depressing team to watch since the year before Duncan was drafted.

    Their b-ball IQ is one of the worst in the NBA (never thought I'd say that about a Pop coached team) and there isn't anything on the roster that is worth cheering for or looking forward to this season. Last year's team wasn't great to watch as a whole but Kawhi was. Hopefully he can regain that form sooner than later. Next year may be our last year seeing him in a Spurs jersey.
    I think the 02 season was worse. TD with no shooters, an aging DRob and Terry Porter/AD running point. I think we got swept by the Lakers that year too. All with prime MVP TD


    Also pretty much every team with Jefferson.

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    Obviously, you don't leave them on an island to defend post up brutes like Nurkic (not like Lauvergne is capable of this either), but a guy like Davis, they should be fine. Blocking him out would be somewhat of a concern, but a worthwhile trade off for not playing Lauvergne.
    Speaking of Nurkic, when he was available last season, why the didn't the Spurs inquire about? When I heard Denver were looking to trade him, I wanted the Spurs to try and get him. Didn't Portland only give up a second round pick for him? He would have been 10X better than Joffery. Some nights he also might have been better than Gasol.

    Spurs need to learn to cut scrubs and take the upgrade whenever possible. I don't give a if a player was on the team in training camp or the start of the season. If he's stinking it up during the season, and he's a minimum guy or a cheap contract, cut him and get someone else.

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    I think the 02 season was worse. TD with no shooters, an aging DRob and Terry Porter/AD running point. I think we got swept by the Lakers that year too. All with prime MVP TD
    Nah, that was 2001 where the Spurs got swept. The 2002 team played tough, tough defense, but didn't have enough offense to get it done. I think the Spurs had a 4th quarter lead in every game of that series against the Lakers, but lost the series 4-2.

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    First off, Pop is awful . . .

    - Every time it gets past 6-7 minutes without Gasol coming out, he resorts to Lauvergne
    - Playing the entire bench together, when 1-2 aren't NBA players
    - Putting in Murray for the final defensive possession, yet inexplicably having Anderson defend McCollum
    - The final play is not the type you run for a traditional big and even if it were, you don't do it after you called timeout on the inbound because they obviously knew what was coming at that point

    On the one hand, the rotation is in a constant state of flux, they're oftentimes playing unproven or fringe players and going down the stretch either playing through a traditional big, with a subpar handle and play making ability or a 40 year old guard, so you could argue the record, no matter the compe ion, is impressive. On the other hand, they can't score or create separation, particularly on the road and a rare time they do, they predictably find a way to lose anyway. Every single game is difficult. You'd think at some point, law of averages would kick in and they'd have a game where they shoot lights out and win comfortably.
    We still haven't seen this team play healthy and a full game together. Our clutch player and best player has not played clutch time. Our fringe players are playing because of all these injuries and injury management programs. No green, Parker, Leonard, and gay tonight. Of course their replacements are fringe players.

    We desperately need a dependable 20min big though. Hoping for a Tyson buyout tbh.

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    I hated Manu coming back, but with this team, thank we have him this season.

    It's a sad state of affairs.

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    Rock boulder head can anything he puts his mind into according to ST
    You trust Joff more than KA at center? The only logic to playing Joff is that he is the closest thing to a traditional center but he is only an inch or two taller than Anderson but Anderson has an armspan that is five inches longer than Joffs, on top of being a much better player.

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    At the pace they're going, the 50+ win streak is in serious doubt.

    I picked a good year to not watch or be interested in the NBA as a whole.

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    If he doesn't sign an extension this offseason or shows an inclination that he might not I think the Spurs trade him. They don't wanna risk losing him for nothing.
    Forgot the rules of the super max, does he have to make an all NBA team back to back years or something to get the biggest pay day possible?



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    Double checked. He already has the criteria met with 2 all NBA appearances in the past three seasons and 2DVOPs
    The Spurs have the upper advantage in resigning him to a super max contact.
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    Forgot the rules of the super max, does he have to make an all NBA team back to back years or something to get the biggest pay day possible?
    I didn't know there was rules like that. I thought the main one was that you have to be on the same team for a certain amount of time? What's the criteria?

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    I didn't know there was rules like that. I thought the main one was that you have to be on the same team for a certain amount of time? What's the criteria?
    One of the following:

    1.He makes one of the three all-NBA teams or is named either defensive player of the year or most valuable player the previous season.
    2.He has made one of the three all-NBA teams or has been named defensive player of the year in two of the prior three seasons or the league’s most valuable player in one of the three prior seasons.

    Kawhi will be eligible and will sign his supermax this summer, which will kick in after next season.

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    If he doesn't sign an extension this offseason or shows an inclination that he might not I think the Spurs trade him. They don't wanna risk losing him for nothing.
    At this point, I think they hesitate to give it to him. That's a imperial -ton of money to hand out to a guy who can't stay healthy, especially if the cap contracts.

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    Do the Spurs want Kawhi to just walk when his contract is up? Because we have nothing in terms of the future. Arguably one of our best players this season is 40, Tony Parker is done, so is Pau. Patty isn’t going to get any better than he his now he’s only going to decline from here. LA is great but turns 33 this summer. Kawhi is 26 years old!! Who does this guy have before he goes and waste his prime years not competing in the playoffs. This organization has been a complete embarrassment after 5.

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    At this point, I think they hesitate to give it to him. That's a imperial -ton of money to hand out to a guy who can't stay healthy, especially if the cap contracts.
    Agreed, and I don't think they should. Said it before, if he's worried about money all he needs to do is look at the contracts Gasol/Manu/Parker have gotten at the end of their careers.

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    The Frustration comes from the injuries being riddled on this roster
    however being that the team is 27-14 and currently 3rd in the west is unbelievable.

    POP, the coaching staff, and most players are doing a of a job.
    just need to tweak a few things imo... I think most of you know what needs tweaking already.

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    All Pop has to do was get manu coming off a pick towards the basket for the win last night. Pop was trying to please LMA against his old team.

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    Nah, that was 2001 where the Spurs got swept. The 2002 team played tough, tough defense, but didn't have enough offense to get it done. I think the Spurs had a 4th quarter lead in every game of that series against the Lakers, but lost the series 4-2.
    Lost series 4-1 and had a lead going into the fourth of every game except for Game 5.

    God 2003 felt so good ending that stupid Laker team.

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    The Frustration comes from the injuries being riddled on this roster
    however being that the team is 27-14 and currently 3rd in the west is unbelievable.

    POP, the coaching staff, and most players are doing a of a job.
    just need to tweak a few things imo... I think most of you know what needs tweaking already.
    To me it has more to do with how poor the rest of the league as oppose to how good the Spurs are. OKC was hot garbage and healthy up until very recently and the Timberwolves might be the biggest letdown in the league considering the expectations heading into the season. This is the worst Western conference (or at least bottom 2) of the past 10 years.

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    I think the 02 season was worse. TD with no shooters, an aging DRob and Terry Porter/AD running point. I think we got swept by the Lakers that year too. All with prime MVP TD


    Also pretty much every team with Jefferson.
    That season was actually exciting. It was statistically Tim's best season and it was fun to watch him go into god mode every game and not hold back. Back then Pop did not rest his stars and Tim played 40 minutes a game. It was Tony Parker's rookie year and throughout the year he showed flashes of potential what was yet to come. Bruce Bowen added great perimeter defense that the team lacked the previous year when Kobe went off in the '01 WCF. They also had Steve Smith who was still a great shooter. Ultimately they lost to the Lakers in 5 games but every game was close with the Spurs leading in the 4th quarter but they just didn't have enough depth and talent to maintain the leads. That team actually gave me hope that the Spurs were on the verge of toppling the Lakers and winning multiple les.

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    Do the Spurs want Kawhi to just walk when his contract is up? Because we have nothing in terms of the future. Arguably one of our best players this season is 40, Tony Parker is done, so is Pau. Patty isn’t going to get any better than he his now he’s only going to decline from here. LA is great but turns 33 this summer. Kawhi is 26 years old!! Who does this guy have before he goes and waste his prime years not competing in the playoffs. This organization has been a complete embarrassment after 5.
    Can't predict the future it's hard to do. I remember after the Spurs got swept by the Lakers in '01 everybody believed that the Spurs had no future because the team consisted of Duncan and a bunch of old veterans passed their prime. Will have to see what future trades the FO makes and what type of FA's they sign. I would not say the organization has been an embarrassment after 5. In the summer of '15 they went all in to get LMA, West, and had a solid pickup of Simmons. That team won 67 games and I believe would have beaten the Thunder if Duncan's knees didn't completely shatter. Last year they added David Lee, Dedmon, Gasol who were good pickups for the bigman rotation. If Zaza doesn't take out Kawhi I felt that team could have beaten the Warriors. Now this summer giving Mills a big deal was a mistake along with replacing Lee/Dedmon with Joff. I had no problems with extending LMA considering without him the Spurs would be a lottery team right now. Also he's a jump shooting big which means his game is not going to drop off for the next few years and by the time it will drop off his contract will be up.

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    To me it has more to do with how poor the rest of the league as oppose to how good the Spurs are. OKC was hot garbage and healthy up until very recently and the Timberwolves might be the biggest letdown in the league considering the expectations heading into the season. This is the worst Western conference (or at least bottom 2) of the past 10 years.
    That's a logical assessment. I agree with you entirely.

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