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    How bout financially?

    The spurs aren't the Lakers bulls or Knicks that have such a huge fan base and sponsors to draw from that they are fine whether the team wins or not.

    This is what I mentioned in my original post. How much responsibility does the head coach have to keep the fans interested in the games? There are 41 home games and how many are diminished due to rest? The advertisers have paid for the spots. The fans still bought the tickets. But more and more, people aren't attending the games.

    People talking about whether or not the Spurs will/won't should/shouldn't pay Kawhi the supermax. Can the Spurs afford to give it to Kawhi if the regular season games are going to be half to 3/4 full?

    I think the stadium is half empty for lots of games partly because we're spoiled. But I also think partly because Pop has diminished the regular season to a pointless, boring, subplot that has no bearing to him on the playoffs. He doesn't even care about seeding anymore. Everyone always talks about how Pop gives games away. I know that's hyperbole, but alot of the resting and subsequent lineups play an huge outcome in seeding. if he doesn't care, why should fans? If he's just playing it safe waiting until the playoffs, why shouldn't the fans?

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    they got 2 seed last year lost KL and it all turned to ...hi health means more than seeding or chemistry tbh
    Completely missing my points. What I bolded was what I was talking about. And then that health is thrown out the window when all it takes is for someone to rolled underneath your legs or you happen to fall and fracture your wrist. , you can be at home and fall down some stairs or something. , Kevin Love got injured from SLEEPING. Not resting was not the reason KL got hurt.. that can happen to the healthiest person.

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    I believe that is what the former president did a lot the current president is kicking ass

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    What has the rest cost the Spurs possible 3rd instead of the 2nd seed?!
    You weren't catching a healthy State ...
    You can beat Rox without HCA ..
    non of the bottom 5 seeds can beat the Spurs in a 7 game series...
    Leonard wasnt winning MVP ...
    none of this, matters . stay healthy and rested
    only the 2nd round of the playoffs and further matters to Pop.
    cuz he can beat everyone else with little effort ...
    making sure KL is healthy in May is all he cares about ...
    This team isn't beating the Rockets if they have HCA... not with the calls Frauden and CP3 get, especially at home, tbh...

    Also, choking to the Thunder is a Spurs' past time lately, I wouldn't put it past this team to go down against them too...

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    This team isn't beating the Rockets if they have HCA... not with the calls Frauden and CP3 get, especially at home, tbh...

    Also, choking to the Thunder is a Spurs' past time lately, I wouldn't put it past this team to go down against them too...
    can and will are two different things ...
    Can the Rox win? Sure but so can the Spurs ...life depending on it gun to your head ...are you taking a healthy Leonard, Pau and Aldridge coached by Pop? Or the noted playoff strugglers led by Finals virgin D'antoni?!
    Pop owns mike d ...

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    It's the elephant in the room. Everyone but Pop sees it.

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    I hate hearing this right here. It’s the statement of spoiled fans. There are a teams that have to struggle to win games in the regular season just to make the playoffs. We just haven’t had to deal with that for a long time. By that time will come one day. And you won’t be saying that (that’s if you don’t hop off the bandwagon when you can’t take the losses). And how in the do you expect to get good seeding? People want to say just get in regardless of seeding but when has that really ever helped someone? Most teams that win have high seeds and homecourt advantage throughout.
    Seeding isn’t important, you get 1 extra home game and only if the series goes to 7. It has nothing to do with being spoiled, we’ve lost serveral series having homecourt and we’ve won serveral series while losing homecourt in game 1. Homecourt means little, it’s not irrelevant , but little. It’s better to have it for a potential game 7 but it’s not important. If the spurs are a championship team then being the 1 or 4 won’t mean much
    the reason most championship teams are the 1,2, 3 seed is in 82 games the cream rises to the top through 82 games. Cavs were the east 2 seed last year but noone picked them to lose. If cavs are a 3 sead this year will it matter? no
    the better team almost always wins regardless of homecourt. If two teams are razor close then yea homecourt will determine the winner
    therefore if 1 potential extra home game isn’t important so the regular season isn’t important.
    Just get through the regular season healthy as possible
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    I am not in favor of needless resting but if guys are injured... what are you going to do?
    The point is they are getting injured because of the Pygmalion effect. The paranoid overkill in regard to injury prevention is leading to injuries.

    No, I can't PROVE that. But it's obviously true in this case.

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    Some good nuggets here that offer different views than what you're saying.


    More- http://hoopsanalyst.com/?p=1674
    Lol resting for 8 hours of sound sleep is all you need for playing basketball 30 minutes in one night. The argument that you need days to recover is in fact stupid and just plain wrong.

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    Rest is about new analytics as people have alluded to. The consensus is that running guys into the ground playing 40 minutes gives u the Thibs/D'Antoni result. Impressive regular season teams that flame out in the playoffs. Case in point look at the 02 Lakers. Shaq basically rested all year and on B2Bs and they destroyed the field in the playoffs, playing like 40mins a game.

    If you can coast and turn it on, you should. Just like GS is doing this year. It also prolongs your stars careers by 2-3 years. Look what happened to Grant Hill
    You name one person and there are literally hundreds of other athletes that prove your grant hill theory wrong. Stockton, malone, kareem, magic had hiv and played consecutively... bird, mchale, jordan, iverson, shawn kemp, you want me to keep naming?

    Youre talking about 30 munutes of playing.

    Now think about bodybuilders... its just sad how this has become a thing

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    Lol resting for 8 hours of sound sleep is all you need for playing basketball 30 minutes in one night. The argument that you need days to recover is in fact stupid and just plain wrong.
    That's a really simplistic view that I guarantee no professional basketball player would agree with lol

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    That's a really simplistic view that I guarantee no professional basketball player would agree with lol
    Of course they wouldnt. They know nothing about how the body works. 95 percent of these players have never taken a health nutrition or ex phys class.

    Again acting like you need days to recover is stupid. Amazing how lamarsha has been the best spur, played over 30 mpg and what almost every game? All the other stars on teams do it. Youre not smart if you buy into this rest . Read a book

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    Of course they wouldnt. They know nothing about how the body works. 95 percent of these players have never taken a health nutrition or ex phys class.

    Again acting like you need days to recover is stupid. Amazing how lamarsha has been the best spur, played over 30 mpg and what almost every game? All the other stars on teams do it. Youre not smart if you buy into this rest . Read a book
    Well, it's not only athletes, it's trainers and other folks who have some sort of insight and have read plenty of books.

    I gave several quotes and you chose to think they're full of it lol no one is saying it's a requirement or you can't play well if you don't rest. But even using LMA as an example, how many games have we seen him look really bad and slow/passive/weak out there? It's happened a couple times this season where he wasn't himself. Maybe an extra day off would've helped him

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    Well, it's not only athletes, it's trainers and other folks who have some sort of insight and have read plenty of books.

    I gave several quotes and you chose to think they're full of it lol no one is saying it's a requirement or you can't play well if you don't rest. But even using LMA as an example, how many games have we seen him look really bad and slow/passive/weak out there? It's happened a couple times this season where he wasn't himself. Maybe an extra day off would've helped him
    Youre a re if you think trainers say to work out for 30 minutes and then take days off for proper rest. Common weight splits are 5 and 2 with each of the 5 days pr ing.

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    Youre a re if you think trainers say to work out for 30 minutes and then take days off for proper rest. Common weight splits are 5 and 2 with each of the 5 days pr ing.
    Keep going off topic and deflecting lol

    The facts and science are there. Keep being ignorant on the topic tho. You've got experts in the matter who disagree

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    Keep going off topic and deflecting lol

    The facts and science are there. Keep being ignorant on the topic tho. You've got experts in the matter who disagree
    I just gave you facts. You have no idea what you are talking about. But keep posting. Dumb

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    I just gave you facts. You have no idea what you are talking about. But keep posting. Dumb
    You gave me an extremely irrelevant comparison. I gave you an article and several quotes. Workouts do not equal NBA basketball

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    You gave me an extremely irrelevant comparison. I gave you an article and several quotes. Workouts do not equal NBA basketball
    The only logical thing you said is your last sentence

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    Lma b2b 30 and 10... no rest.. almost like science disproves the rest theory... which it does

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    Science proves global warming is a myth

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    You believe in rest you believe in flat earth

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    Seeding isn’t important, you get 1 extra home game and only if the series goes to 7. It has nothing to do with being spoiled, we’ve lost serveral series having homecourt and we’ve won serveral series while losing homecourt in game 1. Homecourt means little, it’s not irrelevant , but little. It’s better to have it for a potential game 7 but it’s not important. If the spurs are a championship team then being the 1 or 4 won’t mean much
    the reason most championship teams are the 1,2, 3 seed is in 82 games the cream rises to the top through 82 games. Cavs were the east 2 seed last year but noone picked them to lose. If cavs are a 3 sead this year will it matter? no
    the better team almost always wins regardless of homecourt. If two teams are razor close then yea homecourt will determine the winner
    therefore if 1 potential extra home game isn’t important so the regular season isn’t important.
    Just get through the regular season healthy as possible
    Check my other reply somewhere around here. I spoke of how injuries can happen whenever.

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    Well, it's not only athletes, it's trainers and other folks who have some sort of insight and have read plenty of books.

    I gave several quotes and you chose to think they're full of it lol no one is saying it's a requirement or you can't play well if you don't rest. But even using LMA as an example, how many games have we seen him look really bad and slow/passive/weak out there? It's happened a couple times this season where he wasn't himself. Maybe an extra day off would've helped him
    The best players in the league usually play A LOT of minutes. There is exceptions, but the best players usually play higher minutes. The best player on the Spurs this season is by far LA. and he's played in most games and played more minutes than most of the other players on the team. Stop trying to back up the FO all the time.

    This resting is re ed. The guy who a lot of people consider the best player of all time, his former trainer thinks it's stupid too.

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    The best players in the league usually play A LOT of minutes. There is exceptions, but the best players usually play higher minutes. The best player on the Spurs this season is by far LA. and he's played in most games and played more minutes than most of the other players on the team. Stop trying to back up the FO all the time.

    This resting is re ed. The guy who a lot of people consider the best player of all time, his former trainer thinks it's stupid too.
    The ing about resting is re ed this year considering he is resting people far less, due to all the injuries. Injury management does not equal rest. Manu's reason for being out last night? Rest... How often have you seen guys sitting out for rest?

    The game is different than it was 25 years ago. The technology and science is available to show different things these days. I remember Kerr referencing something he saw on SportsVU that indicated his players were slowing down during a certain stretch of their schedule, so he opted to rest them the next game. Stuff like that didn't exist before.

    But sure, it's re ed.

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    What has the rest cost the Spurs possible 3rd instead of the 2nd seed?!
    You weren't catching a healthy State ...
    You can beat Rox without HCA ..
    non of the bottom 5 seeds can beat the Spurs in a 7 game series...
    Leonard wasnt winning MVP ...
    none of this, matters . stay healthy and rested
    only the 2nd round of the playoffs and further matters to Pop.
    cuz he can beat everyone else with little effort ...
    making sure KL is healthy in May is all he cares about ...
    This 100%!

    As long as kawhi is 100% come playoff time we can beat any team aside from G/S in a 7 game series.

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