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    Because you said he was no Tesla. Back up your claim. One concept, in your own words.
    he was no tesla, he was a hawking and you're a ing re .

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    vy, it almost takes you just as long as hawking to electronically spit out a word.

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    They were born at completely different times and worked on very different things. Tesla was more of an experimental theoretician. Hawking was pure theory.

    I actually made made a pretty big Tesla coil and wash "shocked" that it worked. And worked really well. They don't let you do this on campus anymore I was told. The coil sends out a butt load of radio waves and mess up any dept working with radio waves, like the communications peeps. I wonder how many colleges have their own radio stations, if any... anymore...

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    I actually made made a pretty big Tesla coil and wash "shocked" that it worked. And worked really well.

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    For vy and kori...

    Im just glad people have some sort of interest even if it's a little distorted.

    Its important for our country to at least have an interest.

    Personally, I found Hawkings book (Brief History... )very unsatisfactory. It had a bunch of neat stuff in it but there is no F'N way, if given a certain scenario, I could explain anything using it.And that's fine. It was not intended for that but I thought there were short cuts. I learned that I did not have the math background. When I looked into the math I would have to know "just" to understand General Relativity, it was way too difficult. I was never gonna get a good model in my head that would allow for any sort of coherent analysis. And that's fine. 99.99% of human beings don't understand it well anyway. Just like I don't get opera, some types of art, on and on... I just have not really spent the time necessary to appreciate it. But I still do.
    Appreciate the people who do get these things and even cry when they see it (makes me a bit jealous actually) but... Thats the way it is...

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    For vy and kori...

    Im just glad people have some sort of interest even if it's a little distorted.

    Its important for our country to at least have an interest.

    Personally, I found Hawkings book (Brief History... )very unsatisfactory. It had a bunch of neat stuff in it but there is no F'N way, if given a certain scenario, I could explain anything using it.And that's fine. It was not intended for that but I thought there were short cuts. I learned that I did not have the math background. When I looked into the math I would have to know "just" to understand General Relativity, it was way too difficult. I was never gonna get a good model in my head that would allow for any sort of coherent analysis. And that's fine. 99.99% of human beings don't understand it well anyway. Just like I don't get opera, some types of art, on and on... I just have not really spent the time necessary to appreciate it. But I still do.
    Appreciate the people who do get these things and even cry when they see it (makes me a bit jealous actually) but... Thats the way it is...


    read a book recently that's very different from what we're discussing but it takes a subject i am really interested in and dives deep into what is, what might be, and what could be when dealing with the brain. "the future of the mind" by michio kaku. great book imo.

    btw, i have too many electronics... especially test equipment & components. ugh.... never can have enough i suppose.

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    Yeah that’s not how this works. One concept.

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    read a book recently that's very different from what we're discussing but it takes a subject i am really interested in and dives deep into what is, what might be, and what could be when dealing with the brain. "the future of the mind" by michio kaku. great book imo.

    btw, i have too many electronics... especially test equipment & components. ugh.... never can have enough i suppose.
    Honestly I probably could not wire a house properly or fix my Frggn circuit breaker board. But I know how tstuff works. I know, fairly thoroughly, how cars work, but I am a horrible mechanic and don't give a about cars. But building something from scratch in a determined way through many failures and it finally works... When I saw the first little arcs in the totally darkened room I knew I had it, just some adjustments... The damn thing created at least 300,000 v of potential difference causing 0.75 meters of arcing into the air... F'N amazing. The smell of Ozone... the bottle capacitors lighting up with this spider arcing...trouble, but so cool. Then trying to get it to work better but you are limited because the damn thing starts caring down to the coil..

    And then lighting up flourscent bulbs and then turning them parallel to the electric field and have them turn off... when your standing 3 meters away from the thing... all this theory and models becomes clear. It's very satisfying. What if I try this what if I try that... what should happen... I need to stop.

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    Yeah that’s not how this works. One concept.
    No but at least people care and possibly respect what others do.
    My father is a lawyer. No way for me. Real estate stuff with leins and easements and I don't even know the vocab ... holy F'N blow me apart. Yelling at clients on the phone, constantly writing on his damn legal pad he won't give up...

    I worked there summers in HS and first year college summer. Way too much reading, talking,not enough fiddling around.

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    Honestly I probably could not wire a house properly or fix my Frggn circuit breaker board. But I know how tstuff works. I know, fairly thoroughly, how cars work, but I am a horrible mechanic and don't give a about cars. But building something from scratch in a determined way through many failures and it finally works... When I saw the first little arcs in the totally darkened room I knew I had it, just some adjustments... The damn thing created at least 300,000 v of potential difference causing 0.75 meters of arcing into the air... F'N amazing. The smell of Ozone... the bottle capacitors lighting up with this spider arcing...trouble, but so cool. Then trying to get it to work better but you are limited because the damn thing starts caring down to the coil..

    And then lighting up flourscent bulbs and then turning them parallel to the electric field and have them turn off... when your standing 3 meters away from the thing... all this theory and models becomes clear. It's very satisfying. What if I try this what if I try that... what should happen... I need to stop.
    i'll bring one of my 5 oscilloscopes over asap... rigol i love you!

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    For vy and kori...

    Im just glad people have some sort of interest even if it's a little distorted.

    Its important for our country to at least have an interest.

    Personally, I found Hawkings book (Brief History... )very unsatisfactory. It had a bunch of neat stuff in it but there is no F'N way, if given a certain scenario, I could explain anything using it.And that's fine. It was not intended for that but I thought there were short cuts. I learned that I did not have the math background. When I looked into the math I would have to know "just" to understand General Relativity, it was way too difficult. I was never gonna get a good model in my head that would allow for any sort of coherent analysis. And that's fine. 99.99% of human beings don't understand it well anyway. Just like I don't get opera, some types of art, on and on... I just have not really spent the time necessary to appreciate it. But I still do.
    Appreciate the people who do get these things and even cry when they see it (makes me a bit jealous actually) but... Thats the way it is...
    Well you could always read Hawking's The Large Scale Structure of Spacetime if you want more details to make more sense of it. J/k, that book is ing dense, it makes Carroll's Spacetime and Geometry look like freshman physics.

    If you want a cool and understandable intro to GR check this class from McGill, as long as you know SR decently:

    http://www.physics.mcgill.ca/~maloney/514/

    The problem sets can get kind of hairy though; good to use something like Mathematica to keep things organized in your calculations unless you want to blow through a tree's worth of notebook paper redoing your calculations because you ed up one expansion here or there.

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    Well you could always read Hawking's The Large Scale Structure of Spacetime if you want more details to make more sense of it. J/k, that book is ing dense, it makes Carroll's Spacetime and Geometry look like freshman physics.

    If you want a cool and understandable intro to GR check this class from McGill, as long as you know SR decently:

    http://www.physics.mcgill.ca/~maloney/514/

    The problem sets can get kind of hairy though; good to use something like Mathematica to keep things organized in your calculations unless you want to blow through a tree's worth of notebook paper redoing your calculations because you ed up one expansion here or there.

    Yep Carroll, that was a starting point recommended but...

    differential geometry, tensors, coordinate transforms, Einstein Field Equations, it's not happening, don't have the "time"
    And I would even have to go back and reread SR. I am a molecular biology, biochemistry guy that got interested in some physics because I had to and because it started to interest me. Right now I'm fine just sticking to mechanics because I always learn new inconsistencies in my thinking. It's fun reading it yourself, getting a good grasp, coming up with new questions, and then finally realizing you solved them for yourself.

    When gravitational waves became a thing, I started thinking about EM waves and vibrations and hypothesized that the dancing of the two neutron stars around each other being sort of pure mass, unlike a vibrating charged particle, and it made sense that a property of space could just be allowing for the waves created by two very large,mostly uncharged masses could provide the energy as they rotated and got closer and closer and becoming one big vibrating blob of mass that then ceased to vibrate which might be revealed as the end of the e of a g wave. But the data and other energy released did not fit the model completely so I read further and got bogged down. Then someone else brought in 4-d space time slices and tried to give me another model and I was brain dead. Showed me some preliminary stuff on paper that kinda made sense where I might pick it up. But I gotta work.

    So... I spent valuable time writing you about what I don't know and what it's gonna take.
    But thanks. I'm gonna have to have a person sit face to face with books to get er done. Someday...

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    They were born at completely different times and worked on very different things. Tesla was more of an experimental theoretician. Hawking was pure theory.

    I actually made made a pretty big Tesla coil and wash "shocked" that it worked. And worked really well. They don't let you do this on campus anymore I was told. The coil sends out a butt load of radio waves and mess up any dept working with radio waves, like the communications peeps. I wonder how many colleges have their own radio stations, if any... anymore...
    I went to Survival Research Labs at the Longhorn Speedway around 97-98 when they were in town, they had a tesla coil and had robots moving towards it that got zapped. It was very impressive. Not my video but here it is:


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    I went to Survival Research Labs at the Longhorn Speedway around 97-98 when they were in town, they had a gigantic tesla coil and had robots moving towards it that got zapped. It was very impressive.
    that coil throws a huge EMF with a ton of Amps... that! probably rad as to witness in real life though.

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    I went to Survival Research Labs at the Longhorn Speedway around 97-98 when they were in town, they had a tesla coil and had robots moving towards it that got zapped. It was very impressive. Not my video but here it is:

    What the was all the other stuff?

    What was the deal with the little glowing go carts?

    And I gotta take a screen shot and point some things out cause they did a different design.

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    What the was all the other stuff?

    What was the deal with the little glowing go carts?

    And I gotta take a screen shot and point some things out cause they did a different design.
    It was a go kart with a rocket or jet engine on it.

    http://www.srl.org/

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    RIP, his greatest accomplishment was being part of an all time classic meme.


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    Currently being reviewed by a leading scientific journal, the paper, named A Smooth Exit from Eternal Inflation, may turn out to be Hawking’s most important scientific legacy

    Fellow researchers have said that if the evidence which the new theory promises had been discovered before Hawking died last week, it may have secured the Nobel Prize which had eluded him for so long.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...al-multiverse/

    He’s no Tesla ...

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    Currently being reviewed by a leading scientific journal, the paper, named A Smooth Exit from Eternal Inflation, may turn out to be Hawking’s most important scientific legacy

    Fellow researchers have said that if the evidence which the new theory promises had been discovered before Hawking died last week, it may have secured the Nobel Prize which had eluded him for so long.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...al-multiverse/

    He’s no Tesla ...
    Hawking not winning a Nobel isn't really a slight IMO. It's just hard to prove theories dealing with black holes. Same thing will happen with Leonard Susskind. He'll likely never get a Nobel for creating string theory since there isn't any proposed way to see if they even exist yet. I don't think we're anywhere close to building an accelerator to give particles the kind of energy you'd need to find a string at their currently hypothesized sizes.

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