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    lol at the "championship or tank" mentality

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    What does that have to do with it. Who cares if SA can clear the books in 2 years? They didn’t get back any long-term assets in the Kawhi Deal. They care about winning now knowing GS exists. So push it. Go all-in and worry about 2 years in 2 years.
    You're taking about wrecking their future and they're not.

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    Spurs wanted to keep winning but they aint getting nowhere in the POs with Lamarsha and DeChokezan

    Wake up

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    Regardless what about 3 1sts + Gasol (cap dump) for Butler?

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    If the Spurs suspect Kawhi is broken, I'd trade that protected pick ASAP before it turns into two second rounders.



    Kyle would have been a terrible fit next to DeRozan and Murray. Like literally unplayable bad.
    Thats fine but he was an asset. He obviously had value. Regardless of fit, the point was not about “losing Kyle”. It was about stopping at Beli/Cunningham if your plan is to win now.

    You can’t, IMO, make this type of trade over a pick heavy trade and stop going for it.

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    Cousins is likely finished, tbh..
    So are the Spurs for the foreseeable future.

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    So are the Spurs for the foreseeable future.
    Amen


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    lol at the "championship or tank" mentality
    That’s not what this is.

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    So are the Spurs for the foreseeable future.
    You finally got your wish

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    too much turnover already, just roll with it this year, let the team acclimate, get the new guys some corporate knowledge. then next year, Walker will start getting real minutes, team might actually be something, trade Pau and a first for something.

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    If the Spurs suspect Kawhi is broken, I'd trade that protected pick ASAP before it turns into two second rounders.
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    The best RC is likely to get is a second rounder.

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    I don’t want Murray/White/Lonnie traded, but if SA could get Kemba by giving up Murray? Fine.
    You want Kemba so instead of a second round team (at best) we can become a second round team with an extremely long shot at a WCF appearance?

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    Damn the fluffer brigade has turned on one of their own just because he quit fondling PATFO's balls for a minute. Derozan is right. es ain't loyal

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    You're taking about wrecking their future and they're not.
    How is that wrecking their future? If people are fine with trying to win (I am) for next 2 years then what’s 3 years? I’m not saying get a player with a 5 year deal. I’m saying keep building the team to win as best as possible right now. Don’t stop now or do it half ass.

    It’s not a great roster fit wise or depth wise and I am saying push to make it better. That doesn’t mean it has to even be a star.

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    I don't know that RC is over and I'm sure someone like Kemba has been considered.

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    You want Kemba so instead of a second round team (at best) we can become a second round team with an extremely long shot at a WCF appearance?
    Absolutely.

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    You finally got your wish
    I have been telling you since 2009 when Tim Duncan retires, the so-called "GOAT" PATFO was going to be exposed something awful. You know what they say about leading camels to water.....

    On a side not, Have you bought your Raptors season tickets yet?

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    I’m posting what I believe. I don’t troll. I believe the reports that PHI/BOS offered pick heavy packages. It’s not a guess or a lie; its been reported.

    The picks they have a far better than the pick SA got and getting picks and expiring would be rebuild, while still being able to maybe be a playoff team.

    SA clearly wanted to win. Unless they got an insane young talent like Embiid they always valued getting the best win-now player they could.

    I’m fine with that and understand it. I’m saying, don’t half ass it now. It’s not just about beating GS but put yourself in a stronger position to be the 2nd seed and get win-now players if you can.

    I’m not going to fume if they don’t; I just hope they are trying.
    That's fair and all bro, but DeMar is an ALL NBA player and 4 time ALL Star in his prime. He's on a safe contract for some stability for a few years after all this mess. Even if you feel his PPG is inflated he still put over 23+ PPG for like 3 years now. The dude can flat out score. He has his limitations and it never surprises me when Spurstalk overrates negatives over positives. It's just the nature of the beast. No surprise people were fueled by the drama here but I digress. Getting a sure thing in Derozan with stability and solid prospect with a pick is not bad. Sure I'd want more too but dam bro, Kawhi really ed up. Uncle spewing venom every chance he gets.. For goodness sakes, they already come and basically said he'd sit and doesn't want to play there. How many franchises would take that gamble and unneeded media attention. For example Lonzos trade value is all but dead at this point he was just drafted second this last year. Kawhi's camp has put them in basically the same boat.

    My belief is Masai said look I'll waive the physical but you have to accept this trade. Final offer. Y'all may think PATFO caved but i believe they took the sure thing that may have not been there later.

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    You want Kemba so instead of a second round team (at best) we can become a second round team with an extremely long shot at a WCF appearance?
    Kemba/Derozan/LMA with Pop coaching should make the WCF tbh. Who's beating that team in the West outside of the Warriors?

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    Staying playoff compe ive just so you have something to watch on TV?

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    They clearly made the decision to put the now over the future of the franchise. They had offers of multiple picks and opted to take a package with one pick that is medicore at best and worthless at worst.

    If that is the case, you need to go all-in. This roster is too flawed and too unbalanced to trade Kawhi for that package because you want to “win” and not actually you know “try to win”.

    They cannot let this roster stand as is IMO. They have to push way harder based on their decisions. Losing Kyle/TP for Beli/Cunningham is not anywhere in the realm of good enough if you are putting now over the franchises future with the trading of your best asset.

    Win-now if you are going to win-now.
    I would explore trades for several guys in the $20+ price range with teams that will be in cap this year or especially next and see if anyone bites. Pau+Mills+ pick('s) for Wiggins, Porter, or Beal. If you're going to go for it now then you have to make another move.

    In the absence of that, I'd look for a trade for a bad contract with a good young player attached using Pau and his tax saving deal next year as the bait.

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    Huh? After two years these contracts all go away. GSW might be done by then.
    This. Golden State is going to have a nightmare on their hands after the 18-19 season once Durant, Draymond, and Klay all demand $200 mil. contracts

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    Kemba/Derozan/LMA with Pop coaching should make the WCF tbh. Who's beating that team in the West outside of the Warriors?
    What are you willing to give up for Kemba?

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    Derozan is win now and compete for the next 2-3 years. Why wait to see if Dejounte/White turn into a Kemba Walker when they can probably get the real thing now tbh.

    People disagreeing is the same that re Philly fans were saying about not trading Fultz for Leonard
    Last edited by Mugen; 07-18-2018 at 04:38 PM.

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    Ive Been saying it for a while now but obviously when pop sat with that poor ass hood rat the Spurs had another trade up there sleeve to bring some help for kawitter he basically sad he didn't care and that was that. Assuming Danny green wasn't part of said trade then we still have the ability to pull it off. It was reported that trade was for Walker. Maybe pop figured kawitter and his def along with green opting in would make it ok to part with Murray but now who knows. If that trade were still on the table though and Walker would commit to staying I would still do it. We would have a very very good team and a team playing pop ball is always dangerous no matter the personnel.

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