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Short of Anthony Davis I don't think there's a player that would move the needle much with our current roster. Butler would definitely push us to a WCF berth though.
The “young core” that you are betting on is unproven, except Bertans who is on his way to proving he belongs in Europe. This season we aren’t going anywhere anyway, so just ride it out with Pau and then get rid of him next off-season. Mills also isn’t going anywhere before next off-season. At that time, perhaps we could dump Pau and Patty without giving up too much else. Then, if a couple of the young guys have shown something we could be in a position to make some noise either through trade or FA signing.
Short of Anthony Davis I don't think there's a player that would move the needle much with our current roster. Butler would definitely push us to a WCF berth though.
basically what I would do too, maybe I would have gone after Hanga and Dangubic in this season of big changes, but your plan is okay
It has always been conventional wisdom that we could not sign a big-time FA because of the location of the team in small market, back water SA. I have never been 100% confident that was the whole truth, but I wonder how much impact PATFO have had. Who wants to enlist in the army except committed old ring-chasers? Especially now I suspect many FAs will look upon PATFO as a year-to-year question mark. That likely adds an element of uncertainty that substantially devalues SA in the FA market.
What we need to to this season:
1. Tank - so far so good
2. Find out if Métu is a NBA player and at what position SF or PF?
3. Find out if White can stay healthy and is he a Backup PG?
4. Hold out Walker until her is 200% healthy both knees
5. Is Poodle an NBA player for us? “ I don’t think he is”
Off Season:
1. Try to trade your Mills and Gasol
2. Let Cunningham and Q. go
3. Try and sign a legit 3rd starting caliber player.
4. If Poodle doesn’t work out trade and bring in Nikola
Draft:
This will be the most important draft in a long time based on what our record could be I am thinking 10 to 18 . Am hoping Toronto takes a tumble and we get a pick in the 21 to 25 range.
Last edited by BackHome; 10-26-2018 at 01:34 PM.
As much as people praise Popovich, nobody seems to be wanting to play for him. At least no superstars
I think we are pretty much set, once Murray, Lonnie and white are back all you need to do is to go hard at the best sg/sf defender you can get.
I wouldn't "get rid" of Patty and Gasol contacts as of now unless someone ask for them, because in order to trade them out you'll most likely have to give something for nothing.
I would wait till everyone's back and use our picks and maybe Poetl (if he shows he belongs to the NBA) or Bertans to go for that defender we miss.
A core of Murray, LMA and DD, plus gay as 6th man should be enough to build around.
And the thought of transforming Mills and Gasol in a third star is delusional.
True. You also have to factor in a FAs perceived compatability with Spurs culture. I honestly doubt that PATFO has been very interested in many high-profile FAs through the years. Plus the Spurs have almost never had much cap space. Not knowing how much longer he will be here adds an element of uncertainty that can only hurt the Spurs more.
Just a thought - before everyone plays GM and gets really involved:
The NBA is not going to be about DEFENSE for a few years.
No defense and a lot of gunning at will so whichever team wins rings in the next few years will be an offensive juggernaut.
I would not invest in any Bruce Bowens or Kawhi's for a few years.
Maybe when the cycle runs out and something happens in the league where DEFENSE is suddenly needed - then we might go back to the Pistons bad boys or the bulls/knicks brawls again.
Change coaches. At the end of the season, which can't come too soon, hand Pop the gold watch, give him a firm handshake, look him in the eye, and tell him, "Mah , you are free!"
Free coach Pop from the cruel chains of having to coach this team.
Free Coach Pop! Free Coach Pop!
I actually think the total opposite. There are quite a lot of teams who can score. But especially in the Playoffs when physicality increases, getting stops will be crucial. And finding a way to defend effectively with these ridiculous whistles might be the new coaching innovation which can catapult a team to contender status.
I see the opposite, perimeter defenders will be even more valuable, you may still have at least one offensively challenged player on the team if he is a defensive stud (Roberson imo), players who can defend three positions will be the most valuable pieces to have on their team in this era
The single-best way to get back into the le hunt would be for the team to tank and get lucky by picking a superstar/RoY with their lottery pick then adding him to Murray, Walker, DeRozan and LMA.
Along those lines:
The only pick the Spurs should absolutely try to protect is the current year. Both the Toronto pick and the 2020 pick are on the table.
I'd trade Mills and Gasol with the Toronto pick to Cleveland for Tristan Thompson and Kyle Korver. The total salary $47 Million in committed salary from Cleveland for $60 Million for SA. If Cleveland rejects it, be willing to go for JR Smith instead. That'll put the Spurs at $54 Million, making it a financial win for the Cavs to make up for the poor financial structure.
Then you trade Beli, Bertans and Forbes for expiring deals (all should have enough value to at least get that if not get assets back).
Draft the best forward available on what is hopefully a 20s pick (for reasons to be explained in a bit).
Then in 2019, you trade the 2020 pick and Milutinov to some team like ATL to dump Thompson.
You do all that, renounce cap holds and stretch Korver, and the Spurs end up with a with a roster of:
Murray, White
DeRozan, Walker
Drafted Forward
Metu
Aldridge, Poeltl
Depending on how well DeRozan and Aldridge perform this year, that roster can seem enticing. They could also sacrifice Metu to make it work with a much higher pick. In any event, here's the Capulator scenario:
http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?...9a039500722898
so that would be your way of moving Pau and Patty while creating cap space if I'm not mistaken? The thing is who could we sign that moves the needle? The only star player who I think might at least consider to come over is Porzingis and he doesn't make sense with Aldridge on the roster. Maybe Demar might be able to recruit somebody else? I just don't see it, especially with Pop retiring soon.
No need to move Gasol or $50Mills. Spurs will be lottery quality until they’re contracts are history and a littlevsalary cap won’t do anything. Spurs need to tank until another Duncan comes along, drafted or signed because they have the players to attract him.
I don't know if it's realistic, but what if we trade Pau and Mills to the Hornets for Batum, Parker and the Hornets pick?
We get a little more salary back and can stretch Parker if he decides to hang it up so he can retire a Spur. We take on the Batum contract since 19/20 will be another lost season anyway. Our salary cap stays almost the same, but at least we get a serviceable 3-and-D wing that can start, fits the culture and plays well with Lamarcus. In addition to that we get the Hornets pick which would probably be in the 9-15 range. Combine that with the Toronto and our own pick and we could move up into the Top 5 and draft a future star SF.
The Hornets shred about 13 million of salary and can waive Gasol's partially guaranteed. Mills fills out the back up PG role in Charlotte and plays for Borrego.
I mean we could even send the Toronto or our own pick with them to Charlotte and we could still move up with the other pick and the Hornets pick together. This is also a scenario that might work with other teams who are trying to open up cap space.
Batum likely opts in in 2020, but then his deal would be expiring and you would be able to move it to a team that wants to open up cap space again. LA and Demar's contract would also expire in 2021 which opens up cap room of 78 million in the 2021 offseason where you could go after Giannis
Last edited by RC_Drunkford; 10-26-2018 at 02:48 PM.
RC! Glad to see you finally signed up!
Here’s mine:
Get Dejounte’s and Walker’s buy in so they’ll take the hometown discount throughout their careers, try to trade for a protected lottery pick in a year projected to produce a great crop of talent, keep DeRozan as “grandpa juice” aire apparent, find a solid, mobile Center as a defensive specialist, and give the “past their prime” stars who might ring chase a reason to take the vet minimum and help some brothas out.
Its a glass pipe dream, but my plan nonetheless. I dunno, works in 2k fairly well.
No disrespect intended, but this is not even worthy of discussion until they luck into another superstar. In this league, especially in this era, you don't have a conceivable path to championship contention without one.
This organization has been fortunate to have one for the better part of the past 29 seasons, but the reality is there's usually about 10 at a given time, so they're long overdue to not have one for an extended time. The path they've chosen to take also decreases the odds.
Tank this season.
That's fair.
IF LMA got injured and sat out the season with something that wouldn't linger long term, they would lose games pretty hard. Probably bottom 10 in the league with this defense, or worse. Given the evened out lottery odds, they could get a top 4 pick. IF that top 4 pick worked out somehow into a superstar, maybe they could get back into theoretical contention in a couple of years if DeRozan didn't fall off, LMA didn't fall off, Murray exploded, etc. But that's a whole lot of IFs.
be a bit late to be tanking, when theres a few teams already ahead of the curve with the tanking
fkn league needs to do something man...
Trade for a top 5 pick..remember aldridge came here to win a le not to play for a rebuilding team..like I said if they want to be a contender again they should trade for a top 5 pick or some how they get lucky just like how they got kawhi..
Popo retires asap
I don't think the team is as unattractive as they were in 2015. Aldridge and DeRozan are getting older, but they are both still seen as players in their prime. Murray has the air of being the next big thing. I don't necessarily see them landing KD, Butler, Irving or Kawhi (most of those are obvious), but if Klay for example wants to go somewhere else, I don't think the Spurs will be very far down the list. Walker, Middleton, Harris, Barnes. There are players out there who could be had, and some of them might be gettable to a decent chunk less than a max slot. Might be able to save a guy like Beli, Bertans or Forbes or allow for the team to be bad enough this year to get a high lottery pick.
Something like this:
http://www.shamsports.com/capulator?...5d773137789064
Could also split up money into solid role-players to put around a starting unit of Murray, Walker, DeRozan, Rookie, Aldridge
The god draft was the past one...with al least six/seven clear potential all stars in the near future (Ayton, Bagley, Doncic, Jackson, Young, Bamba...maybe Porter). If its true we were offered on draft night some of the top three, then I frankly think we could have missed our future...
As of now, our hope is that we found one to three a diamonds in the rough with White, Walker, Murray, Poeltl and Metu...but the outcome till now is just an unlucky one 'cause injuries. The jury will be out in any case for at least two years.
One risky move I'll try is to play Bertans as a shooting guard on offense and as a point guard on defense.
His main quality, apart shooting, is that he' a agile and can run the court extremely well. So transition defense and offense shouldn't be a problem. Defensively, in half court defense, he can't be worse than Mills and on offense he has an ovbvious size advantage over quite every opponent and, more, he's good at using screens.
If this pans out, considering that for this season our real point guards will be (or should be) DDR and White (once he came back), we could have found a new starter and a good third weapon...and maybe a first step for a team able to be back on the le hunt.
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