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    Why is that significant to you, Chris?
    You were confused and asking for an explanation after dodging the question. The significance lies within your claim that "conspira s always conflating aluminum and steel". Were you talking about another event, or just talking out of your ass?

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    An average surface fire on the forest floor might have flames reaching 1 metre in height and can reach temperatures of 800°C (1,472°F) or more.

    https://autoweek.com/article/car-new...-aluminum-rims

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    You were confused and asking for an explanation after dodging the question.
    Which question was that?

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    CA works so hard to cut emissions and an annual fire exceeds everything. Sad

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    Fact Check: Was the Recent California Fire Started by the U.S. Government Using Space Lasers?

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/holme...g-space-lasers

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    CA works so hard to cut emissions and an annual fire exceeds everything. Sad
    Californians are choking, jerk.

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    Make America Rake Again!



    California Governor-elect Gavin Newsom and California Gov. Jerry Brown managed to keep their poker faces

    while listening to the drivel from the self-described forest-fire-management stable genius.

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...ica-Rake-Again

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    Trump attributing the forest fires to the fact leaves weren’t raked is almost as funny as when he described how clean coal works.

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    So you found some fringe idiot tweets and you shared them.

    then you wonder how this gets traction

    Signaling for responses
    Its great you also point them out from Chris, derp and TSA (who seems to have stopped after the pizza disaster)

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    Damn. Takes 1250 degrees to melt aluminum.
    Its really a fantastic metal. Light, oxidation is minimal... Buy yeah, it takes energy to "cast" it.

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    CA works so hard to cut emissions and an annual fire exceeds everything. Sad
    So where did you find this fun fact? Because California measures emissions from internal combustion engines, not from the combustion of wood. They produce very different gases. Smog actually has a basic definition.

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    Its great you also point them out from Chris, derp and TSA (who seems to have stopped after the pizza disaster)
    Outrage

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    Its really a fantastic metal. Light, oxidation is minimal... Buy yeah, it takes energy to "cast" it.
    about 10x more to smelt it from ore than iron

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    We both know Chris is going to believe everything posted in the OP
    Nano-thermite how does it work?
    It melts steel.
    You were confused and asking for an explanation after dodging the question. The significance lies within your claim that "conspira s always conflating aluminum and steel". Were you talking about another event, or just talking out of your ass?

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    Trump attributing the forest fires to the fact leaves weren’t raked is almost as funny as when he described how clean coal works.

    There's truth to what he said, although he said it in a very stupid way.

    About 50 years ago, the Forest Services guys, after kicking out most of the loggers, stopped "thinning the brush" in the forests- basically cutting dead trees down, removing dead brush, etc. and this is basically stockpiling kindling, throw in the criminal mismanagement and theft of water resources by California politicians and PG+E's negligence and this is why this state burns a bit closer to the ground every year.

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    There's truth to what he said, although he said it in a very stupid way.

    About 50 years ago, the Forest Services guys, after kicking out most of the loggers, stopped "thinning the brush" in the forests- basically cutting dead trees down, removing dead brush, etc. and this is basically stockpiling kindling, throw in the criminal mismanagement and theft of water resources by California politicians and PG+E's negligence and this is why this state burns a bit closer to the ground every year.
    It's my barber shop level understanding that you are not allowed to carry brush or wood out of those forests even for personal use or just to clear space, is that correct? I understand there are layers upon layers of undergrowth that have died that can burn for an extended amount of time.

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    It's my barber shop level understanding that you are not allowed to carry brush or wood out of those forests even for personal use or just to clear space, is that correct? I understand there are layers upon layers of undergrowth that have died that can burn for an extended amount of time.

    That is correct. From what I gather, the National Forest Service was supposed to do that, referred to as "thinning the brush" as it was done by the loggers that were occupying the areas prior. They haven't done it and basically the entire area is a drought and a spark away from being the annual largest bon fire on planet Earth.

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    There's truth to what he said, although he said it in a very stupid way.

    About 50 years ago, the Forest Services guys, after kicking out most of the loggers, stopped "thinning the brush" in the forests- basically cutting dead trees down, removing dead brush, etc. and this is basically stockpiling kindling, throw in the criminal mismanagement and theft of water resources by California politicians and PG+E's negligence and this is why this state burns a bit closer to the ground every year.
    Fair point but (maybe I’m wrong), isn’t California’s mismanagement of the water a much bigger problem than clearing the brush? The brush issue has been around for decades but these massive forest fires seemed to start happening when the droughts started hitting the state.

    It is beyond stupid that they’re more or less drying out these parts of the state so a bunch of rich assholes in LA can have a winter lawn every year.

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    CA works so hard to cut emissions and an annual fire exceeds everything. Sad
    this is close to the same level of bull as these moronic memes that people pass around the believe


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    I dunno about any of this but the destruction of the Death Star in Star Wars was definitely an inside job imo. No way in photon torpedos could melt steel beams tbh

    Vader just happens to get out right before the explosion? Gmafb
    you don't understand photon torpedoes

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    Fair point but (maybe I’m wrong), isn’t California’s mismanagement of the water a much bigger problem than clearing the brush? The brush issue has been around for decades but these massive forest fires seemed to start happening when the droughts started hitting the state.

    It is beyond stupid that they’re more or less drying out these parts of the state so a bunch of rich assholes in LA can have a winter lawn every year.

    It's a combo of the two. Allowing a giant kindling pile to grow for 5 decades giving fuel to record breaking wild fires annually during record drought and then misappropriating the resources after having nearly a decade of drought and fire is helping keep the streak alive.

    I could go on and on about how terribly mismanaged this state is in these regards and the failure of the state government to put any plans/measures et. al to help combat these annual disasters.

    Here's what's sad considering what this state government has spent on the bullet train that went no where:

    A massive surplus of water obtained after nearly a decade of drought. Vast majority of surplus water emptied into the oceans to flush polluted water that will eventually flow back into the places they were flushed from. They wasted less than a half year to waste the water surplus. It's been a drought since.

    The amount of money wasted on Gov. Rob Ublind's bullet train to nowhere could have purchased multiple desalination plants to turn ocean water into fresh water for the folks of SoCal who must have green lawns AND multiple air crafts that can drop loads of water onto massive forest fires AND the STILL had money left over.

    These simple and obvious solutions have been proposed to the state government throughout this entire decade of drought and fire.

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    Oh, let's not forget PG+E's role in all of this. And they got fined heavily by the state because one recent fire was directly tied to their negligence in installing powerlines and they are passing it on to their customers with the largest rate hikes they've had in X amount of years.

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    you rightwingnutjob bubba redneck kicking KKK assholes

    Are Volcanoes or Humans Harder on the Atmosphere?

    Does one major volcanic eruption generate more climate-altering gas than that produced by humans in their entire history?


    According to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS),

    the world’s volcanoes, both on land and undersea, generate about 200 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2) annually,

    while our automotive and industrial activities cause some 24 billion tons of CO2 emissions every year worldwide.

    (note to you sub-GED assholes: 1 billion is 1000 x 1 million)

    Despite the argu
    ments to the contrary, the facts speak for themselves:

    Greenhouse gas emissions from volcanoes comprise less than one percent of those generated by today’s human endeavors.

    Another indication that human emissions dwarf those of volcanoes is the fact that atmospheric CO2 levels, as measured by sampling stations around the world set up by the federally funded Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center, have gone up consistently year after year regardless of whether or not there have been major volcanic eruptions in specific years.

    “If it were true that individual volcanic eruptions dominated human emissions and were causing the rise in carbon dioxide concentrations,

    then these carbon dioxide records would be full of es—one for each eruption,”

    says Coby Beck, a journalist writing for online environmental news portal Grist.org.

    “Instead, such records show a smooth and regular trend.”

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earthtalks-volcanoes-or-humans/


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    Yeah but the Lakers got LeBron so it evens out eventually.

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