At this point, Nazr = Rasho...
T Park telling me i dont know anything about basketball? Well at least I knew who was going to win the finals.
And honestly kori, what does rasho do well on the defendive end? He seldom blocks shots, he doesnt rebound, he is slow laterally, he isnt agressive at all, and he still fouls a lot.
And you forgot Game 3 in Denver when Nazr sucked and Rasho came in on an injured ankle and played great!
"My concern for Oberto would be height."
I think Fabricio's hustle, aggressiveness, experience, passing, BIQ could easily offset the couple inches he gives up to Nazr and Rasho. It's not like Rasho's 7 feet have enabled him to be an impact rebounder. Nazr's BIQ and hands aren't winners.
I think we have a very interesting, entertaining "horse race" between three for minutes, if not for starting (which Pop doens't seem to play with much).
La vie est belle!
Rasho guards the pick n roll better than any big man on the Spurs-- yes, even Tim Duncan. He understands the parameters of the defensive scheme and rotates to the right places -- that is what Pop meant when he called him the best positional defender on the team. Nazr still is out of position a lot. Rasho does not have speed but he actually moves side to side better than Nazr, as well. His length helps make up for his self-admitted lack of athleticism. About the only complaint about Rasho defensively is his defensive rebounding numbers, although he does do a good job of keeping his man off the offensive boards. To understand what Rasho does defensively, compare the Spurs defensive numbers when he is in the game and out. Check out the points allowed per 100 possessions when Rasho is on the floor.
Despite their individual limitations, if either one of Rasho or Nazr gets injured, we will be glad we had the other. Like everyone else, they drive me nuts with their shortcomings, but regardless, we know that the Spurs can win with either one playing 25-30 minutes a game.
If Rasho was making the $2-3 million a year he actually should be making, no one (including the Spurs) would be having this discussion, and we would be congratulating ourselves on having great depth (if not great quality) at the 5.
He rotates to the right place on D. He helps. He rebounds overall as well as Nazr (compare Rasho's regular season stats last year to Nazr's heralded playoff stats) and he's a much better defensive rebounder than Nazr. I don't love Rasho. I just think that he does what he's asked to do on D. Offense is another story.And honestly kori, what does rasho do well on the defendive end? He seldom blocks shots, he doesnt rebound, he is slow laterally, he isnt agressive at all, and he still fouls a lot.
She must be serious ill
The money he signed for should have had 14/10 numbers at least.
Rasho is pathetic, poor excuse for a center. He is just another typical softy who needs to find a home in lottery town.
That is about the only thing I agree with brutalis.
I guess what pop and his team mates want from rasho is his defence and presence in the paint, but I personaly would be very dissapointed in me if I would be getting paid more then someone who gives so much more to the team.
On the other hand, I remember last year when the spurs played first 50 or so games, they played amazing basketball, won almost all of their games with ease - and rasho played big minutes then...
He just fits in this team, I wonder how would he played somewhere else.
For the record: Minnesota's offer was for $10M more than the Spurs' offer (partially because they could offer higher % raises and an additional year). They were ready to offer him even more to stay there, but he told Kevin McHale it wasn't about getting more money.
Okay, somebody wanna reasearch this:
Who are the 14/10 guys in the NBA and what are their salaries?
I would bet that any 14/10 guy is making at least $9-10 mil.
I believe the only guys who averaged 14 and 10 last year were Garnett, Duncan, Marion, Okafor, Murphy, Shaq, and Odom. So I don't know how people think that Rasho should get those numbers.
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I woulda added about 10 !'s for effect.
Oh well.
I find it funny that Nazr's strengths can be put under strict categories, or even quantified. I've yet to see anyone give me a Rasho strength that isnt an "intangible"
I think I remember a "double-double" thread last season where somebody said only 8 or 9 players out of 450 averaged a double-double, and they were all a lot more expensive than Radoslav, were franchise type guys. I was hoping Rasho could get, as a starter, at least backup Malik Rose 02/03 numbers, (11 and 6) with more than Malik's 24 MPG.
Rasho did get 9 and 8, "flirting" with a double-double, in 03/04.
I don't know how anybody realistically could complain if Rasho got 9 and 8 again in 05/06, as well as playing good defense and being 4th or 5th offensive option.
Rasho's best/last/contract year @MIN was 11 and 6.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/radosl...vic/index.html
in about Rasho is really frying small fish, bored people filling up time.
Last edited by boutons; 10-26-2005 at 06:17 PM.
backup malik rose numbers are wishful thinking
he had a load of started games that season, each one with solid 20/10ish numbers
Rasho did his job against the Pacers. He didn't make any real mistakes and was a positve on the +/-. That is what the Spurs need. That's not saying they can't do better, but take a good look around the league.
Holy Cow!!!! You summed this up perfectly...And i have to agree on everything...I will add, Rasho is now under more stress to try and get back in his groove, i think he's going to suprise everyone.....Pop kept him around for a reason...Have some faith in the guy.....GOOOO RASHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Why do I have the feeling only the ladies on this board like Rasho (and slovenian members, of course, but that goes without saying)? Is it because he's a bachelor?
"Is it because he's a bachelor? "
No. The wimmen here are macho ball-busters, so they like their men soft, shy, and bustable.
I think only two ladies in here like Rasho -- Rashofan and AngeluvWhy do I have the feeling only the ladies on this board like Rasho (and slovenian members, of course, but that goes without saying)? Is it because he's a bachelor?
Doesn't he live with his mum?
Hardly the bachelor life.
You know I was stoked when we got Nazr and after all we've ben through I honestly think Rasho is the better player. The best possible thing for the Spurs is having Rasho, Nazr and Oberto duke it out for the starting position. It's compe ive and they all have something to prove, you can bet that one of them can impress.
That's exactly what I'm hoping for as well.
Shiner Bock Girl seems to like him too. See above ^^
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