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9 out of 10 spurs fans agree. RASHO SUCKS!
I never liked the Nesterovic signing, and I have never bought the idea that he is a great defender either. I think the only time Pop says asinine things about how good rasho is on the defensive end is when he is trying to raise his stock, but I have seldom been impressed with a single fasset of Rasho's game and am 90% sure that had he been starting in the post season his numbers would have tanked. He probably would have pulled a hedo, bricked open shots and miss a bunch of layups while simultaneously failing to so much as breathe on his defensive assgnment.
Oberto on the other hand is not a horible defensive player, has had an excellent camp and preseason by all accounts, and has the potential to be more than what ultimalty both Rasho and Nazr will be in the playoffs.... a handicap. I just dont think oberto will be 1) a waste of oxygen the way Rasho is or 2) as stonehanded and inconsistant as Nazr was.
9 out of 10 spurs fans agree. RASHO SUCKS!
Sorry to burst your bubble. But come opening night, Rasho will be starting and everyone can eat their words.
Fassenating.
Radoslav isn't that bad, but it seems like Pop's coaching has made him paranoid about making a mistake to the point that he is afraid to be assertive on the floor. That is not good.
Anyways, the Spurs' plan is to get Oberto into that starting 5 spot no matter what. $2.5 mil a season for a starting center for the next 3 looks mighty tempting to old Holt Cat.
Honestly, the Spurs should retain Nesterovic and Mohammed. There's nothing wrong with having some bigman depth in this league, especially when you might be squaring off against Miami in the Finals next June.
Rasho sucks ass, and the only reason he might start opening night is because of Nazr's trouble at home with his wife during training camp and preseason.....so dont chalk it up to him being better, its because Nazr found it more appropriate to be with his wife in her time of need. Rasho will be 4th string by the end of november....he will get the starts, and build up his credibility for a trade.
Or it could be that he's been among the better and more aggressive players on the team in preseason and has earned that role back, whereas Nazr was not playing well or picking up the rotations despite his missed time in camp.
But, whatever. The Rasho haters will always hate and the apologists will love.
A picture is worth a thousand words. =)
i cant wait till all u haters jump back on the rasho bandwagon in a few months ...
THE COALITION TO KEEP RASHO LIVES ON ES!!
for the most part 9 out of 10 Spurs dont know jack and suck
go back to watching ESPN and letting other people tell you what's what you sheep
I just dont seem to understand why some of u guys must find someone to hate constantly. It seems that just cause hes soft to some of u guys, u will be so willing to take Rasho apart. If its not Rasho some of u jerks are trying to dissect, its Brent Barry for how sucky he is. Or Parker on how sucky his jumpshot is and how he freezes up in the playoffs. I really hate the crap that is dished out on these guys. Rasho doesnt get enough credit for guarding the opposing big men well. You idiots just look at the damn box score. What does that tell u? Statistics only.
I dont want to digress but probably some of you same folks are dishing Parker about how he just plain sucks. To me Parker is a very good point guard. He will be great very soon. Many of you jackasses forget that he is only in his early 20's and he has done so much more. What do you think LeBron would have achieved by Parker's age? For all the hype that surrounds LeBron about his greatness, he failed to get his team into the playoffs for 2 seasons in the Eastern Conference as well. LeBron will be getting a whole lot more stick if the Cavs dont make it into the playoffs again or get stuck in the first round. Will then there be any questions regarding his greatness?
All you folks lobbying for Nazr is crazy. From what Ive seen from him so far, he aint impressed me much. Yes hes more aggresive. Yes he gets more offensive boards. Yes he might block a couple more shots. (go read the article on Duncan's defense and how Duncan has the best average combination of blocked shots and Defensive rebounds yes hes better than Ben Wallace) Rasho is the same. Nazr if good on the offensive boards and he trys to block shots. But do you guys notice that our defensive rebounds has decreased and opponents offensive rebounds has increased when Nazr took over? The reason seems obvious to me. We are certainly letting teams score on us a lot more though we are scoring more as well. The Spurs points for and points against difference has definitely decreased since Nazr took over.
AND YOU GUYS WANT HIM TO START??!?!??!?!!!!!!!!!!!
cause he can freaking throw it down and Rasho cant. Please.............
you guys that spend all day talking about pop and rasho or tony should just go watch quite frankly every night... cuz quite frankly you dont know jack
I was never on the Rasho Bandwagon, i never liked the dude the moment we got him from MInny when dRob retired, i was like who is this goofy mofo and why did we get him.....I will never root for his lanky, non aggressive play...i only wish that Charles Barkley would step in and show him how to really play in the post
Sorry but i only have hate for Rasho, i have never hated any other player in Spurs history, i even liked Rodman......its not about throwing it down in my eyes its about all around hustle, even Will Purdue did better than Rasho.....he was old and he still was more aggressive than Rasho....thats my only beef with the guy and im sorry im going to have to stop because i have already made my notion clear on this subject...from now on i will refrain from trying to bash on Rasho....
Honestly, there's not really an upgrade from Rasho to Nazr.
Rasho is much less aggressive on offense and despite what the thread starter thinks is a very good position defender. Nazr doesn't get in the right place on D and pretty much gets in people's way on offense. Nazr gets O boards but pump fakes more than Malik. Rasho is a better jumpshooter. Both have a lot of faults and both will do in a pinch. There aren't that many good centers in the league anyway.
For those calling for Oberto to start, he really would have to catch on to the defensive scheme fast. He's been horrible defensively for the most part in preseason (I'm not blaming him for that) but he's surprisingly doing really well in the flow of the offense already. My concern for Oberto would be height. He looks to be about 6'8-6'9 and those few inches can make a difference in the post (Rasho is over 7', Nazr is 6'11 no shoes) unless you are really talented.
We'll see. I don't think any of them are a fantastic option but with the talent at all the other positions on this team, it doesn't really matter -- they just need to know their role.
When in doubt about Spurs' personnel moves, go with the cheapest option. Oberto will be starting either sometime this season or the next. The Spurs can't give Radoslav away so it looks like they are stuck with his contract. Mohammed will command at least Radoslav's price in 2003, if not significantly more.
Hopefully the Spurs can get something good for Mohammed in return by the trade deadline or, more unlikely, in a sign and trade next offseason.
I still think that if the Spurs can find a taker for Radoslav that they will move him, lose Mohammed via trade or letting him walk next summer and that they will bring in Scola to eventually replace Horry as the 1st big off the bench. That way, their starting center will cost $2.5 mil a season and their primary backup big will cost less than $4 mil a season.
RobinsobtoDuncan = waste of bandwidth
Beside what Kori wrote, has anybody ever counted Parker's and Ginobilli's drive-in points when Rasho is on the floor. I understand that fantasy-bball players hate Rasho, however he plays the real not the fantasy thing.
Sometimes there can be finded +/- points. Rasho is always high meaning, with him team plays better offense.
another worthless thread, with a person without clue 1 for basketball talking like an idiot with a paper neck.
I will comment on this offensive thread when I have more time...off to work...in the mean time...CHATA!!!!
Nobody is gonna take Rasho off our hands unless we throw in another player like Beno b/c Rasho is overpriced.
Like I said in the past. Oberto will eventually become our starter. At this point, Nazr = Rasho which = headache for spursfans.
You sure forgot the Western Conference Playoffs, pretty damn quickly last year didn't ya.Nazr = Rasho which = headache for spursfans.
Only one to show up in game 5 VS Seattle, other than Ginobili was who??
Oh yeah, Nazr Mohammed.
why the is Nazr missing so many games anyway? is his wife or newborn sick??
His wife is ill.
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